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The AA AMFA drive was very active up to the NWA AMFA strike.
What happened for everyone to dis AMFA at AA?
B) UT
What happened for everyone to dis AMFA at AA?
B) UT
Ken MacTiernan
Veteran
It is not a matter of "dissing" AMFA. As you know the representational election was rigged. How can AA say they have "X" amount of people in our craft & class that are eligible to vote but when 50+% of this "X" amount sign cards the "X" number is now all of a sudden larger? How can a company and union NOT know who is eligible? How can a company & union include dead people in the list of eligible voters?
Do not worry, AMTs at AA still want a craft, democratic union where ALL union officials are elected by the full membership and are held accountable for their actions/inactions. The Line Stations are overwhelmingly pro-AMFA. I believe MCI has seen the light about the twu. As for T-Town I believe the concessions were a wake up call that the twu will sacrifice parts to ensure dues flow. Is it enough of a wake up call?
AMFA stood their ground at NWA for ALL of us. It is only a matter of time before AMFA is elected in at AA. I am sure Team Bubba is ready to roll out the rented coffin if the need arises.
PRINCESS KIDAGAKASH
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- Oct 9, 2003
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Where do I start. FIRST, the NMB allowed dead,retired,fired,etc. people to be added to voter elidgeability list. When AA bought TWA in 2001 the NMB requested and approved a list of mechanic+related employees of around 16,500 for the combined carriers. This was the basis of the AMFA card count. Over 9700+ cards were submitted to the NMB well over the 60% mark, then all of sudden AA and the TWU submitts a list of voters of over 23,000 people. Using these fraudulent inflated numbers there were no fleet service clerks in MIA,ORD,JFK,etc. We appealed this absolute fraud to the NMB which of course denied us an election by 50 or so "people". Just like they did UAL mechanics back in 2000.
SECOND, AA is filled with sheep(mainly in Tulsa) that wouldn't fight if their lives depended on it. In Tulsa, $9.00/hr is big money and nice double wide is considered a mansion. People here at AA also have very short memories and are now helping the company set up the maintenance bases for the final slaughter. We are the only work group that is still giving more and more concessions. The guy who signed our concession deal in without membership ratification is now the president of the TWU. All the other unions kicked their sell out leaders out of office, except us.
THIRD, The AMFA drive is not dead at AA. It's starting to build up some steam, especially with all this PLI,CI garbage they are trying to force on us here at the maintenance bases. Even the sheep will soon realize that their beloved TWU is leading them to slaughter. Will they realize this before the ax falls? That remains to be seen.
No "dis" what-so-ever, some of us are still in constant contact with the National. The main thing working against us right now is the close to 5,000 on layoff per the NMB numbers. This would require a 75%+ signing rate for those on the property, a tall order in Tulsa and MCI. Many AAers were very active with manning the picket lines for NWA and continue to support the movement for democracy. We will prevail in the future, but with most things in life, timing is everything.
Princess your are very astute
Getting the maintenance bases 145 compliant is like serving yourself up on a golden platter.
Ken MacTiernan
Veteran
So, how is your ability to identify yourself when making moronic comments? Oh, wait. That will never happen.
The strike by AMFA at NWA is still going on. But you knew that. You only wish to behave like an ostrich and stick your head in a hole; preferably one in the ground.
Tell me something, it seems by your post you do not believe in craft, democratic unions for AMTs. So, why are there no drives at AMFA represented airlines to replace AMFA?
If there were, would that be a "raid"? No, the iam, twu never raid.
TWU informer
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- Nov 4, 2003
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The AMFA drive at American Airlines will return, in time, the TWU will be replaced.
Surely no company union, undemocratic union, a dead person union, a without further ratification union, a bus drivers union, will ever survive long term thieving two hours pay per month from intelligent professionals.
It is not a matter of IF, it is a matter of WHEN.
Hang on to that documented proof of TWU lies, failures, and short comings, it will be needed someday.
Surely no company union, undemocratic union, a dead person union, a without further ratification union, a bus drivers union, will ever survive long term thieving two hours pay per month from intelligent professionals.
It is not a matter of IF, it is a matter of WHEN.
Hang on to that documented proof of TWU lies, failures, and short comings, it will be needed someday.
In the meantime we should keep throwing everything we have at Little and company, exposing the lies, the treachery and the hypocrisy, bringing forth charges, lawsuits etc. The charges prove that there is no change from within and the lawsuits bring the facts out into the open.
Whenever you are ready I'm sure I can get you all the cards you need out of New York. I've kept the contact info for those who were laid off and made even more contacts in Title III.
local 12 proud
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- Mar 5, 2004
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Did you also contact the dead?... :down:
If need be, I'll try!
Hackman
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- Sep 30, 2003
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Let's see bootlicker, they lost 1.1 BILLION in the 1qtr, and 295 MILLION alone in April. With Dougie Stealin's "flawless" scab plan and Neil Conehead's BK mess. Looks like many of the scabs are or have quit since AMFA had the balls to walk.
Is Chapter 7 looming? It's looking good, but too soon to tell. :unsure:
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