AA adds 2nd daily CLT-LHR flight

[FWAAA]

Another site says they are switching arrival times with a DFW flight and keeping the departure time the same.

Ahh, that makes sense.   So one of the DFW departures will depart DFW later, so it arrives in London at 1315, the arrival time of the Cyprus slot.   

 

[nycbusdriver]

 
 
That would surprise me greatly, and I doubt it highly.  

 
Sorry.  I am only taking my cues from the US staff in Germany.  Obviously you know more than the people who work the flights day in and day out.
 
In MUC and FRA, we are definitely part of the thirdworld alliance now.

 

[IORFA]

Sorry.  I am only taking my cues from the US staff in Germany.  Obviously you know more than the people who work the flights day in and day out.
 
In MUC and FRA, we are definitely part of the thirdworld alliance now.

Well DUH! MUC and FRA are both Star hubs. Pick different cities and one world is better off than US and it's old star allies. I.E. Paris. AA has always been well established with 5 year round flights and a 6th seasonal. Not including the discontinued LAX and RDU flight. Add in the few US flights and we are still the second best alliance in Paris. Instead of dumping connections into Germany, you are going to be dumping connections into London. Better overall for the company. Maybe you will need to find new things to do since it sounds like you won't be going to Germany too much anymore. Better example, use your incorrect logic and switch it to Latin America and see how third world the alliance is. The funniest thing about your statement about one world is that US was the the third world airline in star. They weren't even allowed into the JV!

 

[737823]

The funniest thing about your statement about one world is that US was the the third world airline in star. They weren't even allowed into the JV!

 
+1000
 
Josh

 

[FrugalFlyerv2.0]

 
It would not surprise me that all CLT - Germany flights will be gone in the fall, and only PHL-MUC and one PHL-FRA will remain for the near future after 2014.

 

But I still continue to believe there is sufficient demand between Germany and the southeastern U.S., including Florida, to justify at least a single daily CLT-FRA flight.  I would not be at all surprised to see such a route eventually settle into being operated by the smallest longhaul widebody AA operates - a reconfigured PMAA 2-class 763 - but I still think the route survives with at least one daily flight.
 
As for PHL-FRA - as I said, I doubt the second flight will last much longer, and eventually expect it to shift to a second PHL-LHR.
 

Well DUH! MUC and FRA are both Star hubs. Pick different cities and one world is better off than US and it's old star allies
 
Instead of dumping connections into Germany, you are going to be dumping connections into London. Better overall for the company. Maybe you will need to find new things to do since it sounds like you won't be going to Germany too much anymore. Better example, use your incorrect logic and switch it to Latin America and see how third world the alliance is. The funniest thing about your statement about one world is that US was the the third world airline in star. They weren't even allowed into the JV!

 
In the future, would it not make more sense for AA/US to focus more flights, especially if they are connections, to 1-world partner Air Berlin?  So maybe FRA and MUC retain couple token flight(s) to 1 AA/US hub, but the rest are focused on DUS and TXL.

 

[WorldTraveler]

I believe Air Berlin is looking for the next filling station - and they need super octane at the price of water.

 

[FrugalFlyerv2.0]

I believe Air Berlin is looking for the next filling station - and they need super octane at the price of water.

They should fill up at Trainer.

 

[eolesen]

I give Air Berlin two years before they're out of oneworld, possibly along with AZ getting out of Skyteam...

 

[WorldTraveler]

are you sure that either have even two years of life left?

part of DL's increased capacity in Italy this winter might be to push AZ over the edge... AF or not.

 

[zethya]

are you sure that either have even two years of life left?

part of DL's increased capacity in Italy this winter might be to push AZ over the edge... AF or not.

Etihad is finalizing a 49% stake in AZ.

 

[FrugalFlyerv2.0]

I give Air Berlin two years before they're out of oneworld, possibly along with AZ getting out of Skyteam...

 

are you sure that either have even two years of life left?

part of DL's increased capacity in Italy this winter might be to push AZ over the edge... AF or not.

 
I didn't realize AB's finances were that shaky.  I thought they may have turned the corner already.
So you don't think Etihad will find a few hundred million $$$ to keep AB and AZ alive?

 

[nycbusdriver]

Well DUH! MUC and FRA are both Star hubs. Pick different cities and one world is better off than US and it's old star allies. I.E. Paris. AA has always been well established with 5 year round flights and a 6th seasonal. Not including the discontinued LAX and RDU flight. Add in the few US flights and we are still the second best alliance in Paris. Instead of dumping connections into Germany, you are going to be dumping connections into London. Better overall for the company. Maybe you will need to find new things to do since it sounds like you won't be going to Germany too much anymore. Better example, use your incorrect logic and switch it to Latin America and see how third world the alliance is. The funniest thing about your statement about one world is that US was the the third world airline in star. They weren't even allowed into the JV!

 
Well, DUH.  Yeah.
 
My post was just reacting to the guy who thinks AA will maintain our four flights at day (summer) to FRA, which is, as you note, a Star Alliance hub.  HE thinks it makes perfect sense because all our thirdworld passengers will jump at the chance to connect in FRA where US, being the New AA, and LH no longer play nice together.
 
I was just saying that the poor shlubs who made their reservations before the switch are now enduring a less-than-stellar connect, and the US agents there are taking the brunt of the complaints and seeing the effects of leaving Star Alliance in favor of thirdworld (which, facilities-wise in FRA and MUC, really are "third world.")

 

[john john]

Buh Bye now RDU

 

[700UW]

AA has corporate contracts on the RDU to LHR flight.

 

[john john]

AA has corporate contracts on the RDU to LHR flight.

And you know how parker works he will want more money to subsidizes the route