A plan to save the US economy

[US1YFARE]

not to let those thoughts fall to the waist side, but bother way, if we are concerned about the green infustructure, catching smokes on the warf is a not going to help maters

 

[KCFlyer]

Look around...it'll never happen...its starting to cave.Obama is going to have his hands very full.

Anybody inheriting the mess left over from 8 years of Bush would have their hands full. The problem for Obama is that it can't be "fixed" in 4 years. Fixes can be started, but their full effect won't be felt for more than 4 years.

Just look at the "lowest approval ratings in history" for the 2006 congress. Americans wanted change, specifically with the direction of the war in Iraq. They gave the Congress 2 years before turning on them.

Amazing folks, us Americans...we can burn gasoline like there are limitless supplies and suddenly face high gas prices before taking any actions to even try to stem our usage. We can demand that the Fed give us low interest rates, even though it might have gone against the better interests of the long term economy, until we face a financial crisis. We have no problem watching the fundamentals of anything slowly erode...and when the erosion threatens all of us...we expect an immediate fix. It's not going to happen. Not under Obama...not under McCain...not under any person or group. It took a heckuva lot longer to get into the messes we are in than anyone cares to admit. It's going to take even longer to get out of them.

 

[delldude]

I have seen some asinine rants before but this guy take the cake.

How can anyone take you seriously when you cannot even use a simple program called

"Spell Check"?

 

[FLYHAPPY]

Anybody inheriting the mess left over from 8 years of Bush would have their hands full. The problem for Obama is that it can't be "fixed" in 4 years. Fixes can be started, but their full effect won't be felt for more than 4 years.

It took a heckuva lot longer to get into the messes we are in than anyone cares to admit. It's going to take even longer to get out of them.

To be fair, and to emphasize what you are saying Obama can't do in four years:

Don't think Bush didn't inherit some 'mess' that started with the Carter administration. Too bad there wasn't an inheritance tax on any of that affordable housing for everyone crap that was passed from one administration to the next.

Bush may not be all that, but neither were many of his predecessors, we just have easier instant access to news of blunders than ever before in history.

 

[KCFlyer]

To be fair, and to emphasize what you are saying Obama can't do in four years:

Don't think Bush didn't inherit some 'mess' that started with the Carter administration. Too bad there wasn't an inheritance tax on any of that affordable housing for everyone crap that was passed from one administration to the next.

Bush may not be all that, but neither were many of his predecessors, we just have easier instant access to news of blunders than ever before in history.

Isn't it amazing then that the Carter mess couldn't be cleaned up by 20 years of republicans in the white house?

 

[FLYHAPPY]

Isn't it amazing then that the Carter mess couldn't be cleaned up by 20 years of republicans in the white house?

I'm sure that the next one will handle all of that with the next 20 years.

It will get better now that we have a new guy in town who will pay my gas and mortgage. Did you sign up for that yet?

 

[tech2101]

It will get better now that we have a new guy in town who will pay my gas and mortgage. Did you sign up for that yet?

Please show me where that was promised... <_<

 

[KCFlyer]

I'm sure that the next one will handle all of that with the next 20 years.

It will get better now that we have a new guy in town who will pay my gas and mortgage. Did you sign up for that yet?

You know, for a fun time, you should read Carter's "malaise speech"...it was only 30 years ahead of it's time.

Point one: I am tonight setting a clear goal for the energy policy of the United States. Beginning this moment, this Nation will never use more foreign oil than we did in 1977 -- never. From now on, every new addition to our demand for energy will be met from our own production and our own conservation. The generation-long growth in our dependence on foreign oil will be stopped dead in its tracks right now and then reversed as we move through the 1980's, for I am tonight setting the further goal of cutting our dependence on foreign oil by one-half by the end of the next decade -- a saving of over 4 1/2 million barrels of imported oil per day.

Point two: To ensure that we meet these targets, I will use my Presidential authority to set import quotas. I'm announcing tonight that for 1979 and 1980, I will forbid the entry into this country of one drop of foreign oil more than these goals allow. These quotas will ensure a reduction in imports even below the ambitious levels we set at the recent Tokyo summit.

Point three: To give us energy security, I am asking for the most massive peacetime commitment of funds and resources in our Nation's history to develop America's own alternative sources of fuel -- from coal, from oil shale, from plant products for gasohol, from unconventional gas, from the Sun.

I propose the creation of an energy security corporation to lead this effort to replace 2 1/2 million barrels of imported oil per day by 1990. The corporation will issue up to $5 billion in energy bonds, and I especially want them to be in small denominations so that average Americans can invest directly in America's energy security.

Just as a similar synthetic rubber corporation helped us win World War II, so will we mobilize American determination and ability to win the energy war. Moreover, I will soon submit legislation to Congress calling for the creation of this Nation's first solar bank, which will help us achieve the crucial goal of 20 percent of our energy coming from solar power by the year 2000.

These efforts will cost money, a lot of money, and that is why Congress must enact the windfall profits tax without delay. It will be money well spent. Unlike the billions of dollars that we ship to foreign countries to pay for foreign oil, these funds will be paid by Americans to Americans. These funds will go to fight, not to increase, inflation and unemployment.

Point four: I'm asking Congress to mandate, to require as a matter of law, that our Nation's utility companies cut their massive use of oil by 50 percent within the next decade and switch to other fuels, especially coal, our most abundant energy source.

Point five: To make absolutely certain that nothing stands in the way of achieving these goals, I will urge Congress to create an energy mobilization board which, like the War Production Board in World War II, will have the responsibility and authority to cut through the redtape, the delays, and the endless roadblocks to completing key energy projects.

We will protect our environment. But when this Nation critically needs a refinery or a pipeline, we will build it.

Point six: I'm proposing a bold conservation program to involve every State, county, and city and every average American in our energy battle. This effort will permit you to build conservation into your homes and your lives at a cost you can afford.

I ask Congress to give me authority for mandatory conservation and for standby gasoline rationing. To further conserve energy, I'm proposing tonight an extra $10 billion over the next decade to strengthen our public transportation systems. And I'm asking you for your good and for your Nation's security to take no unnecessary trips, to use carpools or public transportation whenever you can, to park your car one extra day per week, to obey the speed limit, and to set your thermostats to save fuel. Every act of energy conservation like this is more than just common sense -- I tell you it is an act of patriotism.

Our Nation must be fair to the poorest among us, so we will increase aid to needy Americans to cope with rising energy prices. We often think of conservation only in terms of sacrifice. In fact, it is the most painless and immediate way of rebuilding our Nation's strength. Every gallon of oil each one of us saves is a new form of production. It gives us more freedom, more confidence, that much more control over our own lives.

So, the solution of our energy crisis can also help us to conquer the crisis of the spirit in our country. It can rekindle our sense of unity, our confidence in the future, and give our Nation and all of us individually a new sense of purpose.

You know we can do it. We have the natural resources. We have more oil in our shale alone than several Saudi Arabias. We have more coal than any nation on Earth. We have the world's highest level of technology. We have the most skilled work force, with innovative genius, and I firmly believe that we have the national will to win this war.

I do not promise you that this struggle for freedom will be easy. I do not promise a quick way out of our Nation's problems, when the truth is that the only way out is an all-out effort. What I do promise you is that I will lead our fight, and I will enforce fairness in our struggle, and I will ensure honesty. And above all, I will act.

We can manage the short-term shortages more effectively and we will, but there are no short-term solutions to our long-range problems. There is simply no way to avoid sacrifice.

We pretty much ignored him then....now look at us - still dependent on foreign oil...still a lack of public mass transit in most cities...no efforts for conservation at all. But....he said we had to sacrifice.

 

[Rogue Rat]

I keep coming back to one phrase........."You can learn a lot from a dummy".

 

[FLYHAPPY]

Please show me where that was promised... <_<

Peggy told me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI

 

[FLYHAPPY]

You know, for a fun time, you should read Carter's "malaise speech"...it was only 30 years ahead of it's time.

We pretty much ignored him then....now look at us - still dependent on foreign oil...still a lack of public mass transit in most cities...no efforts for conservation at all. But....he said we had to sacrifice.

You are right and it's good to know both sides. For all the back/forth that goes on on this board, we have to know that there are many sides to this polygon world in which we are living.

Many of us only seek out information that supports our beliefs.

I believe that most running our country are crooked and that those outside of the red and blue, are the ones that hold true to what America stands for, although often they are overlooked or perceived as wack jobs.

 

[tech2101]

Peggy told me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI

Oh, ok then. You should go ahead and quit your job, and stop making payments on everything.

If she said it, and it showed up on youtube, it must be true.

 

[FLYHAPPY]

Oh, ok then. You should go ahead and quit your job, and stop making payments on everything.

If she said it, and it showed up on youtube, it must be true.

Oh I'm good with all that thanks anyway. That was the fastest place I could find it. I'll see if I can find it somewhere more plausible for you when I get a chance. Sometimes I have to work though so it might not be quickly.