You are correct. This is just another example of something that is not even worth mentioning, yet we will now see a whole thread with the perpetually unsatisfied trying to find something wrong and scream and moan about over something that is truly insignificant.
A Manifest is Memo
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Perhaps this is exactly why the message was sent out, to avoid confusion because there are different types of manifests, and some people don't realize that. They think they have "the" manifest, when in fact they only have "a" manifest, and a different manifest has other information on it.
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god you guys b### and complain about everything. it's just a memo.
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Well in defense of the memo we certainly DO have some Debbie Ding Dong's flying around as "A". They have NO idea what is going on. They wouldn't know the difference between a prelim manifest, the manifest or final report if you quizzed them. Let us be honest here. I think that memo was written for those that don't have a clue. I think it's speaking to MANY. 
EXACTLY!
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a prelim is a prelim-i agree it has not enough of the right info on it and too much BS--like the pax whom checked in on the computer at home-
As far as seat dupes...we do not have too many....here anyhow...but we all know to watch for the kids in exit row ect....many times these pax are checking in at home and not putting in that there are kids in the res...and it has been happening on the kiosks too...thankfully the pax always comes to the gate counter to try and "check in again" and we usually catch it then....I read alot about families being seperated...in my cty we try our best to move people...if we are full there is not much we can do but ask in the boarding area if someone is willing to switch---and we have given bev and hedset cpns--when we had them-to assist us in getting someone to switch. When pax refuse to switch we can not make them..pax buy tickets not seats.
I have no issues if you decide to throw the paperwork away-whatever gets done with it is not my biz....but when you nastily tell me you don't want it, and then ask me a silly question that the answr was on the paperwork in the first place...well, you figure it out.
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this must be Tempe's view of the workforce
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Definitely agree with that, but when I asked the union on this they told me that unless you have a program "grandfathered" in already you cannot institute one because of discrimination laws that now exist. Didn't check validity of that statement but it makes sense as everyone seems to want a program and they won't go there.
So we may have to go for tougher training, tougher training, tougher training......
That's a load of BS... that union will make up the stupidest nonsense. There's no discrimination in adding a tier to your workforce. The Coaching and observation programs are similar. If US was serious about international expansion and having a consistently delivered onboard product, they'd be looking into this. It's offers a slight level of advancement in a workforce that has little initiative to begin with, and adds a level of accountability and service recovery in the company's most visible customer interaction- on board the aircraft. Look who we are talking about though.
The blockade is that neither airline ever had such a program, and the small minded see it as a seniority violation. Both carriers were/are regional carriers that in the past never had a need for such things as language speakers, qualified pursers... schlepping around on a 737 doesn't really require those things. The membership needs to grow up as much as the company does if they really want to be the type of carrier that flies to Asia and is part of a global alliance.
I am SO tired of the union's cloudy crystal ball "oh, that would never pass..." "oh the membership wouldn't go for that" "i don't think the company wants that...". Now "it's dicrimination"... what? These are all things other carriers have, and guess what, they don't have 20 year reserves, displacements every two months, and arguably the most unhappy F/A workforce in the industry. Has no one at AFA ever heard of thinking outside the box, or even if it's broken let's fix it?
The blockade is that neither airline ever had such a program, and the small minded see it as a seniority violation. Both carriers were/are regional carriers that in the past never had a need for such things as language speakers, qualified pursers... schlepping around on a 737 doesn't really require those things. The membership needs to grow up as much as the company does if they really want to be the type of carrier that flies to Asia and is part of a global alliance.
I am SO tired of the union's cloudy crystal ball "oh, that would never pass..." "oh the membership wouldn't go for that" "i don't think the company wants that...". Now "it's dicrimination"... what? These are all things other carriers have, and guess what, they don't have 20 year reserves, displacements every two months, and arguably the most unhappy F/A workforce in the industry. Has no one at AFA ever heard of thinking outside the box, or even if it's broken let's fix it?
Then why did they ask a question about a dedicated purser program in the survey they put out?
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I agree Bob, but I’ve seen much worse over the years. When we had Einstein Bros. BOB snacks there was a pronunciation key for the word “Einstein†on the PA announcement script for example.
I really don’t care what tone people communicate with me in, but then I’m a sarcastic jackass with a very thick skin. That’s just me though.
It’s really too bad when the CBS (crew email) system was set up years ago it was a one way pipe. Can you imagine some of the “feedback†they would’ve received from me and a few others here on this chatboard?
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Hey, you all know I can be sarcastic with the best of them! Is it professional and motivational to the workforce. NO. In private fine but don't talk down to me. Yes, some of our girls I swear TravelPro your right. In a cabin prep I would probably knock them out as part of the preparation They would not be able to find their watch to take time! So, take them right out the equation. Such a shame what this place has become. And this lady sending this stuff out is CBS happy. I see her name every time I check in. Take her keyboard away!
They would not be able to find their watch to take time! So, take them right out the equation. Such a shame what this place has become. And this lady sending this stuff out is CBS happy. I see her name every time I check in. Take her keyboard away!Well gee, I guess in no wheresville podunk town..you don't have many dupe seats...on RJs...well golly gosh...MAINLINE IS HAVING A NIGHTMARE...AND THE GATE AGENTS WHO COULD FIX IT Don't care. They have been BEAT down to the "I Don't Care Just put a machine out front of the A/C and let the people figure it out. Can you blame them? NO! BTW Where can a guy get a can of paint and some carpet scraps? Your airline...aka USAIRWAYS has the filthiest jetways in the biz. Are you proud of that 30 year old scum that resides on everything? Wow...how many BILLIONS IN THE BANK???? AND DIRT IS THE NAME OF THE GAME. If you are embarrassed...you have a right.
