Al Legheny
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- Jul 21, 2009
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Let me see if I can understand...You get a letter from a guy that was told not to touch the me too language and it is gone.
And this same guy wanted to expedite the vote by shortening the time allowed to vote against AFA policy for some reason
And this is also the guy that wanted to change from paper ballots to electronic ballots after the TA had been put out.
Without getting into a debate over what you think the contract says and what I see as problems with the language, I just look at it as possibly the last contract that many will work under and dam&@t, I don't want any grey areas or loopholes. I want it right!
A seniority list is a list of names on a piece of paper in a particular order.
The McKaskill Bond amendment guarantees a spot on the piece of paper but it is
different contract language that guarantees who flies the airplanes.
The language in Section 1.B.4 is troubling. I am not discussing what Mike Flores is
talking about within the 12 month designation. I am asking why the following language:
"Provided however that this paragraph will not apply if and when following a transaction
of any type, the US Airways Pilots System Seniority List ( including during separate
operations the US Airways and America West pilot seniority lists) is integrated with
another air carrier's pilot seniority list."
The beginning of this paragraph says that US Airways Flight Attendants operate all flight
crewed by US Airways pilots. Then this last paragraph takes that away.
To get back on subject:
1. Someone ought to look for language in the APFA (American FA) agreement that gives them the
right to operate any aircraft that is under the AMR umbrella. That would be problematic
considering the history of how AMA pilots and FA's have treated other employee groups like
Air Cal and TWA.
2. What is the purpose of this language if the above is not the case. If it is to allow a
split between the front and back for scheduling then there is an easier and more
clear way to word that. Get the clarification
3.Using the condition of a pilot integration as the conditional issue, a merger, it can
raise the question that there are a transfer of flying rights from US Airways flight
attendants to some other party. Please notice that seniority is not the issue, it is the
right to be a crew member on a US Airways aircraft. Did that right transfer, in contract
language to some other party? Will some other party now have those rights in the event
of a merger? Do American Flight Attendants have language that gives them rights on any
aircraft operated under the AMR umbrella or a merged carrier with American whether or not
it is controlled by AMR?
Note that this about rights to work an aircraft, not seniority per se. Your position on
the integrated list might not change but you don't have a right to operate aircraft in
your own system. There are two questions one of seniority and the other is what that
seniority right conveys.
The language in the TA seems to say that the right to work on a US Airways Aircraft
is in question in the event the pilots are involved in a seniority integration.
I am not a lawyer, someone needs to talk to one about this quick.