5&5 makes too much sense
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I dont know if DWH is going to play a major role in AA decision making but with UAL coming up on their amendable date most of the unionized mechanic workforce in the industry will be working under amendable deals. AA could wait, but from what I hear Continental Mechanics are picking up where NWA and UAL left off in the beginning of this Millenium. I've spoken to a few UAL guys and they too are fed up. One UAL guy I know was laid off and went to the MTA here in NYC , just got recalled, but he isnt giving up his MTA job despite the fact he has 20plus years at UAL. UAL is his side job now, needless to say he isnt going to break a sweat there.
Right now AA management is still intent on going for the Grand Slam, they want to pick up the few concessions they missed in 2003, however as our line guys see what their peers are asking for at other carriers the window of opportunity for AA is closing rapidly on getting any further concessions, so you may see a deal shortly, but if you do it will be a virtual copy of the June proposal, after all six out of the seven on the subcommittee voted in favor of that, one wanted to even make it a four year deal. We could even see something before Christmas. As of November 12 the sub-committee can meet with the company without even notifying the rest of the committee.
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If only all mechanics were in one union.
If only all mechanics would ban together and disregard the RLA.
If only all mechanics would have had enough at the same time and would stand together in defiance of the greedy elite.
If only....
...All mechanics understood the power they have togther as one instead of being divided by carrier, divided by cost of living, divided by skill, divided by age, divided by union banner.
If ony...
If only all mechanics would ban together and disregard the RLA.
If only all mechanics would have had enough at the same time and would stand together in defiance of the greedy elite.
If only....
...All mechanics understood the power they have togther as one instead of being divided by carrier, divided by cost of living, divided by skill, divided by age, divided by union banner.
If ony...
..True. Labor unions tout themselves as "Organized labor" but if anyone sat down to figure out how workers in the airlines are "organized" the only conclusion that they could come up with is that we are in fact "disorganized". Our structure has got to be the most incoherant in the industry.
When the airline industry started restructuring after deregulation, the Unions took no steps to adjust to the new reality of increased competition, instead of looking out for our earnings and standard of living the airlines were able to put all the unions in a race to the bottom. Each union has focused simply on retaining their RLA mandated dues base. Each union marked off its carriers as their turf and sent us all to hell in the hopes that the carriers where they had members would be the last ones standing. The problem is there never will be a "last one standing", the competition is perennial, so things just keep getting worse and worse for us. Airlines continue to show losses despite huge labor cost savings and huge increases in revenue. Despite the skyrocketing revenue our unions give the airlines a sympathetic ear and tell their members to prepare for more sacrifice. This isn't Industrial Unionism as we are taught, its business unionism, at its worst.
Our labor is being brokered for the benifit of organizations, the organizations real primary goal is to continue to pay the small elites that manage the organizations six figure salaries. For these people the status quo is just fine, fixing the problem might require them to sacrifice because with consolidation and restructuring they may be out of a job and I dont see that happening.
5 & 5s were offered when the airlines were paying wages whereby they could replace current workers with workers at much lower wages, right now they probably couldnt replace those who would accept a 5&5, even at top rates. My wife just showed me her first paycheck, her starting pay is over $4/hr more than my topped out wage after 30 years as an A&P mechanic.
SkydrolJunkie
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Yeah, but does she actually have to work???
I suppose its like any other job where there's a large workforce in that some could sit back and let others do the work but since lives are at stake and knowing her as I do I would say Yes, she does actually have to work. Like our job the workload varies and is unpredictable, some shifts are harder than others.
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But does she have to dish out 2 hours per month to a labor union that will give away 50 years of pay and benefits to insure there are enough heads around that production has to fall to compensate for the overage of manpower? Does she have to make attempts to organize a change that will place the majority in control rather appointed dictators?
I mean really Bob $4 per is not much to pay for the great TWU representation. Come on man, the TWU is doing their best. You just don't see the big picture.
Holiday Satire of Course.... :blink:
I mean really Bob $4 per is not much to pay for the great TWU representation. Come on man, the TWU is doing their best. You just don't see the big picture.
Holiday Satire of Course.... :blink:
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Right! I'll be working elsewhere.
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<I> So if in the very unlikely event of a twu picket, and especially one that involves fighting for the future, we all know what side of the line this poster will be on. </I> - You won't see me in the company of any scabs. My comment is sarcasm, as the TWU has never been loyal to us. That is the point. TWU is an AMR management - led organization if there ever was one.
