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You do that...
Decide what you will settle for or how you will make peace with less than your expectations. I think that goes for every pilot at the new American. You will be slotted by equipment with some longevity credit and that will be that. This panel will not make the same mistakes as NIC.
 
Metroyet said:
Oh I've gotten plenty right about the fake Union USCABA over the years.
Lost wake which shackled USTUPID for the rest of their life.
No DOH list, no contract from USAPA, endless LOA93 without the APA. Hobbled by Silver, the West getting their seat and USCABA stealing dues money. All accurate predictions. Bottom line. USCABA failed. 100% correct there too.
You have no credibility in this industry with anyone. Can't wait to hear the East argument s in front of the SLI panel. You'll be chasing your hypocritical tails, talking out of both sides of your lying, scab mouths, utterly entangled in the mess you created before THE FIRST DAY IS OUT.
Looking fwd to it! :lol:

Anger issues much? You are like a 13 year old girl that doesn't get her way,lol

And don't criticise East of using childish emoticons. And be careful or Clax will bring out your list of "who is going to get you next" threats from you over the years. Ha ha ha
 
Metroyet said:
Oh I've gotten plenty right about the fake Union USCABA over the years.

Lost wake which shackled USTUPID for the rest of their life.
No DOH list, no contract from USAPA, endless LOA93 without the APA. Hobbled by Silver, the West getting their seat and USCABA stealing dues money. All accurate predictions. Bottom line. USCABA failed. 100% correct there too.

You have no credibility in this industry with anyone. Can't wait to hear the East argument s in front of the SLI panel. You'll be chasing your hypocritical tails, talking out of both sides of your lying, scab mouths, utterly entangled in the mess you created before THE FIRST DAY IS OUT.

Looking fwd to it! :lol:
Umm,
 
Excuse me, but most people make some mistakes on this forum and admit they were wrong, myself for one.
 
For you to beat your chest about how often you have been right is making you look foolish. Maybe your peers forget about your mistakes, but you are dealing with pilots who have higher IQs and don't forget your chest thumping and your blunders. 
 
From what I have heard from AA pilots involved with the SLI.....well, sorry, but you are gonna be very disappointed. 
 
My point is.....all the chest thumping and name calling isn't getting you anywhere, but certainly is making you look foolish, we all are familiar with your batting average. Just think how foolish you will look after the SLI.
 
breeze
 
mrbreeze said:
Umm,
 
Excuse me, but most people make some mistakes on this forum and admit they were wrong, myself for one.
 
For you to beat your chest about how often you have been right is making you look foolish. Maybe your peers forget about your mistakes, but you are dealing with pilots who have higher IQs and don't forget your chest thumping and your blunders. 
 
From what I have heard from AA pilots involved with the SLI.....well, sorry, but you are gonna be very disappointed. 
 
My point is.....all the chest thumping and name calling isn't getting you anywhere, but certainly is making you look foolish, we all are familiar with your batting average. Just think how foolish you will look after the SLI.
 
breeze
Dealing with pilots who have higher IQ's... Impressive.

You sound like that Anderson character, Jerry. He's the reason the court ordered letters like his to
cease....Impressive blunder :lol:

Case 2:13-cv-00471-ROS Document 285 Filed 11/25/13 Page 1 of 4
James H. Anderson

November 20,2013
Senior Judge Roslyn O. Silver
United States District Court
Sandra Day O'Connor U.S. Courthouse, Suite 624
401 West Washington Street, SPC 59
Phoenix, AZ 85003-2158
Dear Senior Judge Silver:
It's never been clear to me what a Judge's job is: to apply intellect, scholarly knowledge and
precedent to cases at hand in order to render a scientifically and legally correct verdict, or
to do justice. Or perhaps it is some combination of the two. In a perfect world of course one
would do both simultaneously. But I venture to guess that since our world is imperfect, that
is why your job is such a difficult one. Ajob that one doesn't come by easily.
Though I wouldn'tdare'co'mparemyselfwithsomeone of your credentials and a'U.S; Senate
confirmation no less.Lean fairly say that I did l1otcomebymyjobeasiIy either; '; ,
To (getmyjob I had to have a spotless record, a four-year degree or higher; uncorrected
20/20 visionandabout'Ifl years of applicable experience. Once I'met those qualifications I
felt lucky when I was invited to travel across the countrythree different times for three
succeeding interviews that included challenging written tests, medical and psychological
evaluations, on the job operational testing, verbal quizzing and testing and other extensive
screenings culminating in a very stressful board interview, Only about one out of seven
invitees to the initial interviews ultimately received an offer of employment.
When I accomplished all of this'and was hired for lily dream job at the relatively young age
of 28 I was thrilled. It was reflected by those who surrounded me, who all had to go
through the same selection process. And it was reflected by the career that lay ahead of us.
We all had gotten a job where we worked under one of the leading contracts in the industry
with some of the highest levels of compensation, an outstanding retirement program and
the best training, professional envir-onment and work rules in the industry.
We all looked forward to our defined benefit retirement plan that provided us with a
guaranteed lifetime annuity 'of over $10,000per inonth for life beginning at age 60, or
under many-circumstances a lump sum payment of just over one million dollars:
We werethe bestof the'best andWere compensated accordingly, Formermilitary officers
consisting of commanders, fighter and transport pilots and educated, refined, credentialed,
experienced and carefully selected civilians. We were, and still are, the Sully's of aviation:
Case 2:13-cv-00471-ROS Document 285 Filed 11/25/13 Page 2 of 4
just the kind of person you want in the cockpit of the airliner you're flying on when the
chips are down.
These criteria and compensation levels applied to all three of the legacy airlines that had
come together to form U.S. Airways: Pacific Southwest Airlines (where Sully came from),
Piedmont Airlines where I was hired in 1989, and USAir, with roots back to the original Air
Mail service in the 1930's.
I don't know whether or not you're a fan of baseball but I feel comfortable saying with
some certainty that when a kid is growing up and wants to be a baseball player he doesn't
say "When I grow up I want to play for the Reno Aces!" No, s/he wants to play for the
Arizona Diamondbacks, the San Francisco Giants or the New York Yankees. Not the Fresno
Grizzlies or the Wilkes Barre Rail Riders.
I mention this, much of which you likely already know, because I also have a unique
perspective of America West Airlines: Through a provision of the Transition Agreement I
was one of only 5 "East" pilots who ended up flying out of Phoenix in the former America
West system between December 2007 and August 2008. And let me tell you, it was not
what I was used to!
As it is in baseball, so it is also with the airlines. Nobody with my qualifications aspired to
become a pilot for America West. Rather, the pilots of America West ended up there after
not making the cut at American, Delta, Northwest, United, USAir, PSA, Piedmont or the
other top-tier legacy airlines. I accurately felt that I had temporarily been "sent down" to
AAA from my spot in the major leagues.
All of a sudden I was flying with a group of rag-tag pilots who by their standards, had hit
the big-time and were flying jet airliners. Few, (26%, I am told) had a four-year degree.
Many wore thick glasses and many were quite overweight. Rather than officers, the
military veterans were former load-masters, landing signal officers and other noncommissioned
officers. And the core group who helped to get the airline up and running in
the 1980's were former strike-breakers from the big 1983 strike at Continental Airlines.
Even my simulator training instructor was second-tier. He was an 83 year old subcontractor
in a polo shirt and khakis, not a suit-clad check airman who was a manager in
the flight operations department at a major airline like I was used to.
The same standard held true for their fleet and working conditions. The America West
pilots had no retirement program besides a 401(k), worked to the limits permitted by
regulation and even had a joke about the airplanes they flew. It was "We had a
standardized fleet. Until we got our second airplane." It too was a rag-tag collection of used
and lease-returned airplanes. Never once did a shiny new plane make its way from the
factory straight on over to Phoenix. (Standardization in the cockpit is a hallmark of safety,
and identical cockpits like we had on every single airplane in the East were a rarity on the
West fleet.)
Case 2:13-cv-00471-ROS Document 285 Filed 11/25/13 Page 3 of 4
Upon consummation of the merger the former America West flight operations department,
including all of flight training and standards, was gutted and replaced in its entirety by the
East flight operations department. And the fleet was upgraded. All of the old 737's were
replaced by brand new A-321's and every other airplane was upgraded and retrofitted to
meet the standards of our top-tier airline.
While I was there, America West had its very best pilot contract ever while U.S. Airways
had its absolute worst, after two bankruptcies. Ironically these two contracts were pretty
much the same when it came to total compensation.
I can't tell you how thrilled the five of us East pilots flying in the West were when we got to
return to the East in October, 2008 when the America West Las Vegas base was closed and
Phoenix pilots were furloughed.
Since then and with time it has become increasingly clear that the value of the U.S. Airways
franchise is in the East. Unlike the five of us East pilots who got stuck in the West for a short
time five years ago, today the twenty or so West Pilots who have been flying in the East for
the last severa/years are fighting tooth and nail to not have to go back to the West.
Meanwhile, shiny new Airbuses, including brand new wide-bodies continue to be delivered
to the East as classes of 20 new-hire pilots per month come to the East month after month.
And the East continues to add new international destinations such as Istanbul, Athens and
Edinburgh.
For the old America West, how likely would a merger with American Airlines have been
without U.S. Airways? Please forgive me if I sound like a snob but it is true: Never in their
wildest dreams did a single America West pilot ever think he would be flying brand new
wide-body aircraft to Europe while making $200,000 a year. But now they can.
Why am I telling you all of this? Perhaps I sound entitled. I love to root for the underdog.
But I can tell you this for certain: I earned my job to be with the best of the best when I was
hired in 1989. And I guarantee that anyone of the current West pilots would have accepted
my job offer on the date I got it over the one that they have now if they could have gotten it.
But they couldn't.
If you think it's fair to take a kid who was sitting in new-hire ground school at America
West in 2005 while I had 16 years of service flying in the East and put him over 300
seniority numbers ahead of me, then implement the Nicolau Award.

If you think it's fair to take an America West pilot who started at that airline 10 years after I
was flying at U.S. Airways, who couldn't make the cut at USAir, Piedmont, PSA, American,
Delta or United and make him a wide body captain flying to Europe while simultaneously
making me his career co-pilot, then implement the Nicolau Award.

To be blunt, with the formation of the new American Airlines the pilots of the East and the
pilots at American will be getting the career they qualified for, earned and expected. And
the pilots of the West will be getting a payday, bonus and career beyond their wildest
expectations.

 
I would hope that that would be enough. But ifnot, then implement the Nicolau and staple me and my peers behind each and everyone of them.

If that's fair though, I'd have to think that it would be equally fair to place a career Ex Parte
or Municipal Court Judge directly into Federal District Court, while giving him/her
immediate senior status and waiving the Senate confirmation requirements in the process.
Thank you for your consideration,

Sincerely,
James H. Anderson
 
EastCheats said:
Dealing with pilots who have higher IQ's... Impressive.

You sound like that Anderson character, Jerry. He's the reason the court ordered letters like his to
cease....Impressive blunder :lol:

Case 2:13-cv-00471-ROS Document 285 Filed 11/25/13 Page 1 of 4
James H. Anderson

November 20,2013
Senior Judge Roslyn O. Silver
United States District Court
Sandra Day O'Connor U.S. Courthouse, Suite 624
401 West Washington Street, SPC 59
Phoenix, AZ 85003-2158
Dear Senior Judge Silver:
It's never been clear to me what a Judge's job is: to apply intellect, scholarly knowledge and
precedent to cases at hand in order to render a scientifically and legally correct verdict, or
to do justice. Or perhaps it is some combination of the two. In a perfect world of course one
would do both simultaneously. But I venture to guess that since our world is imperfect, that
is why your job is such a difficult one. Ajob that one doesn't come by easily.
Though I wouldn'tdare'co'mparemyselfwithsomeone of your credentials and a'U.S; Senate
confirmation no less.Lean fairly say that I did l1otcomebymyjobeasiIy either; '; ,
To (getmyjob I had to have a spotless record, a four-year degree or higher; uncorrected
20/20 visionandabout'Ifl years of applicable experience. Once I'met those qualifications I
felt lucky when I was invited to travel across the countrythree different times for three
succeeding interviews that included challenging written tests, medical and psychological
evaluations, on the job operational testing, verbal quizzing and testing and other extensive
screenings culminating in a very stressful board interview, Only about one out of seven
invitees to the initial interviews ultimately received an offer of employment.
When I accomplished all of this'and was hired for lily dream job at the relatively young age
of 28 I was thrilled. It was reflected by those who surrounded me, who all had to go
through the same selection process. And it was reflected by the career that lay ahead of us.
We all had gotten a job where we worked under one of the leading contracts in the industry
with some of the highest levels of compensation, an outstanding retirement program and
the best training, professional envir-onment and work rules in the industry.
We all looked forward to our defined benefit retirement plan that provided us with a
guaranteed lifetime annuity 'of over $10,000per inonth for life beginning at age 60, or
under many-circumstances a lump sum payment of just over one million dollars:
We werethe bestof the'best andWere compensated accordingly, Formermilitary officers
consisting of commanders, fighter and transport pilots and educated, refined, credentialed,
experienced and carefully selected civilians. We were, and still are, the Sully's of aviation:
Case 2:13-cv-00471-ROS Document 285 Filed 11/25/13 Page 2 of 4
just the kind of person you want in the cockpit of the airliner you're flying on when the
chips are down.
These criteria and compensation levels applied to all three of the legacy airlines that had
come together to form U.S. Airways: Pacific Southwest Airlines (where Sully came from),
Piedmont Airlines where I was hired in 1989, and USAir, with roots back to the original Air
Mail service in the 1930's.
I don't know whether or not you're a fan of baseball but I feel comfortable saying with
some certainty that when a kid is growing up and wants to be a baseball player he doesn't
say "When I grow up I want to play for the Reno Aces!" No, s/he wants to play for the
Arizona Diamondbacks, the San Francisco Giants or the New York Yankees. Not the Fresno
Grizzlies or the Wilkes Barre Rail Riders.
I mention this, much of which you likely already know, because I also have a unique
perspective of America West Airlines: Through a provision of the Transition Agreement I
was one of only 5 "East" pilots who ended up flying out of Phoenix in the former America
West system between December 2007 and August 2008. And let me tell you, it was not
what I was used to!
As it is in baseball, so it is also with the airlines. Nobody with my qualifications aspired to
become a pilot for America West. Rather, the pilots of America West ended up there after
not making the cut at American, Delta, Northwest, United, USAir, PSA, Piedmont or the
other top-tier legacy airlines. I accurately felt that I had temporarily been "sent down" to
AAA from my spot in the major leagues.
All of a sudden I was flying with a group of rag-tag pilots who by their standards, had hit
the big-time and were flying jet airliners. Few, (26%, I am told) had a four-year degree.
Many wore thick glasses and many were quite overweight. Rather than officers, the
military veterans were former load-masters, landing signal officers and other noncommissioned
officers. And the core group who helped to get the airline up and running in
the 1980's were former strike-breakers from the big 1983 strike at Continental Airlines.
Even my simulator training instructor was second-tier. He was an 83 year old subcontractor
in a polo shirt and khakis, not a suit-clad check airman who was a manager in
the flight operations department at a major airline like I was used to.
The same standard held true for their fleet and working conditions. The America West
pilots had no retirement program besides a 401(k), worked to the limits permitted by
regulation and even had a joke about the airplanes they flew. It was "We had a
standardized fleet. Until we got our second airplane." It too was a rag-tag collection of used
and lease-returned airplanes. Never once did a shiny new plane make its way from the
factory straight on over to Phoenix. (Standardization in the cockpit is a hallmark of safety,
and identical cockpits like we had on every single airplane in the East were a rarity on the
West fleet.)
Case 2:13-cv-00471-ROS Document 285 Filed 11/25/13 Page 3 of 4
Upon consummation of the merger the former America West flight operations department,
including all of flight training and standards, was gutted and replaced in its entirety by the
East flight operations department. And the fleet was upgraded. All of the old 737's were
replaced by brand new A-321's and every other airplane was upgraded and retrofitted to
meet the standards of our top-tier airline.
While I was there, America West had its very best pilot contract ever while U.S. Airways
had its absolute worst, after two bankruptcies. Ironically these two contracts were pretty
much the same when it came to total compensation.
I can't tell you how thrilled the five of us East pilots flying in the West were when we got to
return to the East in October, 2008 when the America West Las Vegas base was closed and
Phoenix pilots were furloughed.
Since then and with time it has become increasingly clear that the value of the U.S. Airways
franchise is in the East. Unlike the five of us East pilots who got stuck in the West for a short
time five years ago, today the twenty or so West Pilots who have been flying in the East for
the last severa/years are fighting tooth and nail to not have to go back to the West.
Meanwhile, shiny new Airbuses, including brand new wide-bodies continue to be delivered
to the East as classes of 20 new-hire pilots per month come to the East month after month.
And the East continues to add new international destinations such as Istanbul, Athens and
Edinburgh.
For the old America West, how likely would a merger with American Airlines have been
without U.S. Airways? Please forgive me if I sound like a snob but it is true: Never in their
wildest dreams did a single America West pilot ever think he would be flying brand new
wide-body aircraft to Europe while making $200,000 a year. But now they can.
Why am I telling you all of this? Perhaps I sound entitled. I love to root for the underdog.
But I can tell you this for certain: I earned my job to be with the best of the best when I was
hired in 1989. And I guarantee that anyone of the current West pilots would have accepted
my job offer on the date I got it over the one that they have now if they could have gotten it.
But they couldn't.
If you think it's fair to take a kid who was sitting in new-hire ground school at America
West in 2005 while I had 16 years of service flying in the East and put him over 300
seniority numbers ahead of me, then implement the Nicolau Award.

If you think it's fair to take an America West pilot who started at that airline 10 years after I
was flying at U.S. Airways, who couldn't make the cut at USAir, Piedmont, PSA, American,
Delta or United and make him a wide body captain flying to Europe while simultaneously
making me his career co-pilot, then implement the Nicolau Award.

To be blunt, with the formation of the new American Airlines the pilots of the East and the
pilots at American will be getting the career they qualified for, earned and expected. And
the pilots of the West will be getting a payday, bonus and career beyond their wildest
expectations.

 
I would hope that that would be enough. But ifnot, then implement the Nicolau and staple me and my peers behind each and everyone of them.

If that's fair though, I'd have to think that it would be equally fair to place a career Ex Parte
or Municipal Court Judge directly into Federal District Court, while giving him/her
immediate senior status and waiving the Senate confirmation requirements in the process.
Thank you for your consideration,

Sincerely,
James H. Anderson
Well, 
 
First of all, my statement about higher IQs came across wrong......what I meant to say was that most pilots have higher IQs than average......didn't mean to sound like the East IQ was better. I am sure we have West pilots with higher than average IQs.
 
My point is that Metroyet is full of ****. Someone mentioned that he sounds like DM.....I agree. All the chest thumping in the world will have no effect on the outcome of the SLI. Thump away, DM.....you're just making yourself look foolish.
 
breeze
 
mrbreeze said:
Well, 
 
First of all, my statement about higher IQs came across wrong......what I meant to say was that most pilots have higher IQs than average......didn't mean to sound like the East IQ was better. I am sure we have West pilots with higher than average IQs.
 
My point is that Metroyet is full of ####. Someone mentioned that he sounds like DM.....I agree. All the chest thumping in the world will have no effect on the outcome of the SLI. Thump away, DM.....you're just making yourself look foolish.
 
breeze
Fair enough, I thought you and DM got it all sorted out.
 
EastCheats said:
Fair enough, I thought you and DM got it all sorted out.
The last conversation that I had with him was when he, the Captain, and I all shook hands and agreed that it was all cool, and that that was the end of the situation. Next thing I know, a buddy called me and told me that he had posted all my personal stuff on the Cactus forum.....which one of your pilots was nice enough to re-post on this forum what he had said about me. DM is a dick in my opinion.
 
I got my part of it squared away with the JS committee....tried to do what was right.  I have no idea as to where he went with it. I do watch for him these days though.
 
Have a good night,
breeze
 
mrbreeze said:
Well, 
 
First of all, my statement about higher IQs came across wrong......what I meant to say was that most pilots have higher IQs than average......didn't mean to sound like the East IQ was better. I am sure we have West pilots with higher than average IQs.
 
My point is that Metroyet is full of ####. Someone mentioned that he sounds like DM.....I agree. All the chest thumping in the world will have no effect on the outcome of the SLI. Thump away, DM.....you're just making yourself look foolish.
 
breeze
Cool. I've got a new persona!  I'm Not "DM" or anyone else I've been accused of either. Who cares who I am. Just tell me where I'm wrong in my listed predictions. BTW, this isn't chest thumping. These are facts. The West is armed with a fairly arbitrated list you agreed to by the arbitrator YOU wanted. I'll be wrong after SLI and the two American and US Airways are organized in a way that in no way recognizes the Nic award. USAPA came, stole, and went without anything close to a combined DOH list. They've left a mountain of history and evidence hostile to those whom they had a DFR and to whom they confiscated money at gun point. You've spun a web of lies so thick Edward Scissorhands couldn't extricate himself from it...that's the story you hope to avoind in SLI and I'm here to tell-  you there is no way in Hell the West isn't going to walk the Arbitration Panel through every step your fake union made since it's Still-Birth. No Judge ever said the Nic wasn't fair and valid, No Judge ever said you were free to dictate the sli terms to the West. Quite the opposite actually. Anyway, the East is staring up a sheer clif of an argument...in front of the few people in this country that don't need a single word of background, evidence, or argument to fully understand what USAPA was/is, and what they've failed to accomplish.
 
Sleep tight. This won't hurt a bit...
 
To my knowledge, the fairness of the NIC has never been tried and I doubt that your lawyers are stupid enough to defend the particulars of the award in court. Your entire case stands on "final and binding" which, by the way, can't stand alone. The Transition agreement was clear what it took to put the NIC into play and it never happened. It doesn't really matter why. The fact is that the stipulations in the contract between the East/West pilot and LCC never took place.
 
Now it's up to your lawyers to prove that the Transition Agreement can be disregarded and the NIC left to stand on it's own regardless. Whatever happens, happens. Time to move on when the dust settles. USAPA is irrelevant and has no representational powers outside of the SLI. Time for the 9th to throw your case out since you no longer have a representational entity to sue.
 
EastCheats said:
Ok, sure. You were at 32 years going on 33 in December. Now 34 years. :lol:

 
 
Last summer (2014) I had 34 years, going on 35.  Today I have 35 and THEREFORE am now in my 36th year.  All this in less than 6 months time.
 
Are you just too dense to understand basic arithmetic?  No wonder westholes ended up at that pathetic loser of an airline.  Probably couldn;t even spell your name correctly on the application, and that made you prime meat for the AWA Personnel Department.
 
FL430 said:
The only prediction you got right was the west getting their own seat out of hundreds previously wrong.

 
 
I was puzzled that the APA spearheaded to movement to get the westholes their own MC (Moron Committee.)  Now, it's clear that they were: 1.) covering their own butts in the event of the west whiners inevitable lawsuit, 2.) separating the westholes from the possibility of any claim to widebody flying.
 
And the PHX idiots went right along with it.  
 
From all of us on the East, we are certainly ecstatic to have the west Moron Committee at the SLI table.  The bring nothing of value for their "protected" class, and will get nothing of value from the arbitration.
 
nycbusdriver said:
Last summer (2014) I had 34 years, going on 35.  Today I have 35 and THEREFORE am now in my 36th year.  All this in less than 6 months time.
 
Are you just too dense to understand basic arithmetic?  No wonder westholes ended up at that pathetic loser of an airline.  Probably couldn;t even spell your name correctly on the application, and that made you prime meat for the AWA Personnel Department.
WTF? :lol:

Obviously, you don't pay attention to detail. Let's review. I'll break it down in smaller bites so your Polygrip won't slip while you chew on it, old man.

Posted by luvthe9 on 22 December 2014 - 06:25 PM in American Airlines
Sorry son, more like coming up on 33 years but whose counting, but we all luv you think I'm Courtney and Clax is Cleary, we all get a laugh at that, now run along skippy and ponder why you did not want the NIC when it was offered to you, must feel really stupid now I bet, oh well! It must really suck to be you, we feel sorry you can't accept reality

Posted by luvthe9 on 31 January 2015 - 06:00 PM in American Airlines
Guess your clueless about your new boss. 34 year USAirways employee

On Dec, 22, 2014, Courtney Luv is a 32-year employee. On the 31st of January 2015, pay close attention, that's just over a month, he's a 34-year employee. I guess he forgot what number he pulled out of his a$$ the month before.

It's really not that hard to follow.
 
nycbusdriver said:
Do you really show in your pilot log that you flew that airplane?  (I don't mean you airplane spotter logbook.)  If so, I am sure the FAA would love to learn of the falsification of your flight records.
What the hell are you talking about?

Sleep it off.
 
A320 Driver said:
You do that...
Decide what you will settle for or how you will make peace with less than your expectations. I think that goes for every pilot at the new American. You will be slotted by equipment with some longevity credit and that will be that. This panel will not make the same mistakes as NIC.
nycbusdriver said:
 
I was puzzled that the APA spearheaded to movement to get the westholes their own MC (Moron Committee.)  Now, it's clear that they were: 1.) covering their own butts in the event of the west whiners inevitable lawsuit, 2.) separating the westholes from the possibility of any claim to widebody flying.
 
And the PHX idiots went right along with it.  
 
From all of us on the East, we are certainly ecstatic to have the west Moron Committee at the SLI table.  The bring nothing of value for their "protected" class, and will get nothing of value from the arbitration.
I think you two are having trouble grasping the concept of yet another arbitrator's decision, which you obviously don't agree. Guess what, the West gets a seat at the table. Now, take your seat at the table, go through the process and whine about the decision when it's handed down.

Meanwhile, stick a pacifier in it.
 
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