2015 Pilot Discussion.

[luvthe9]

You're going to be stapled behind every single America West pilot when this is over. You ALREADY ARE Courtney. Nothing will change that. Goodnight.

You are embarrassing yourself and your fellow scabs again.


Thanks to Kevin Horner the APA does not like west pilots.

 

[EastUS1]

You're going to be stapled behind every single America West pilot when this is over. You ALREADY ARE Courtney. Nothing will change that. Goodnight.

 
Sigh. No worries then. No doubt it will all end well for "you'se"....Perhaps in addition to the proudly self-ascribed "Integrity Matters" T-shirts, all that's now needed is a fresh batch with the following slogan:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abL9dHtzjjE
 
 
 
 
 
A point of idle curiosity that arose from vainly attempting to follow your rather interesting "logic"; in specifically what alternate universe (or asylum) does the blending of present and future tense "make sense" to anyone? "You're going to be......You ALREADY ARE"....? I'd have to guess NeverNeverland...? Or is it simply "Sparta"?

 

[EastUS1]

 
Hey, idiot.
 
During that entire period, I earned more than you on a "bankruptcy" contract.  What exactly does that have to say about the westhole non-bankruptcy contract that earned you less flying the same 757s?

 
Cactuspilot1 and EastCheats present as overly emotional and fully frustrated first officers who, instead of finding themselves magically elevated to "senior" status over people with full decades of more service than themselves, have seen nothing outside of PHX and the right seat. These are hardly much-experienced in life people. Metroyet comes off as an insanely zealous boy/girlfriend of some equally impaired "spartan."  It's hardly kind of us to intrude on their fantasies with any aspects of actual reality, but it is admittedly amusing to do so. Heck, these days?...I almost miss all of prechilill's many "T-Minus" countdown clocks for when she was "righteously" due to take command of a 330. Of course, for best laughs; one could never beat the good old times of "You won't even get 200 cards!...Send the cards, I DARE you!"..."Final and binding! It's OVER!...Get used to it!"..."The Nic undiluted"...."NO fences!"/etc, the mighty west's own rep Cactusboy's "This is sparta!"/ad infinitum.
 
Cue Peter, Paul and Mary: "Where have all the" (spartans) "gone, long time passing...."? 😉

 

[EastUS1]

1:29 into this masterpiece: "You know why I hate you?"..."I hate every single one of you'se!", because "the day before this merger"...Waah!..."I was gonna' be a kaptun!"
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N66EvBBj5tQ
 
 
I'll leave it to the reading audience as to whether or not they'd be eternally grateful for even the chance to put their families and loved ones on any plane ever "commanded" by that clearly "intelligent", sane, and obviously in complete control of himself at all times individual...Or perhaps this one?.."Lords and Ladies"?:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT8H9smpK3U
 
 
 
Ask the HR dept from AWA how such were ever even hired, not me. I'm just an observer.
 
Having said all that; I've had enjoyable conversations with a good number of of well-experienced and decent ex-AWA pilots. NONE of them ever exhibited such assinine nonsense at any level, and I would cheerfully place my loved ones on aircraft they commanded, but it's my expererience that the sad sorts of "Cactus Kids" that drool themselves to sleep at night over fantasies of the nic aren't at all in the same league with them. The achievement of even any semblance of wisdom takes time and experience...and isn't ever accomplished by the wave of some arbitrator's magic wand, or anyone's overly inflated, personal ego, most especially that last.....even if a "valor" saturated "knight" and self-fantisized hero of "many surprise victories"....Seriously: Was there NO psych testing for AWA whatsoever?

 

[EastUS1]

"The achievement of even any semblance of wisdom takes time and experience...and isn't ever accomplished by the wave of some arbitrator's magic wand, or anyone's overly inflated, personal ego, most especially that last.....even if a "valor" saturated "knight" and self-fantisized hero of "many surprise victories"....Seriously: Was there NO psych testing for AWA whatsoever?"
 
Again; I've met many of the AWA pilots who've proved both reasonable and fully sane during conversation, but it's also notable that their juvienile juniors have posted many derisive claims against the actions of the flight crew responsible for "The Miracle on the Hudson"....Perhaps it's really not such a bad thing for all that they've been denied instant advancement to "Captain" status via denial of their nic fantasies...Just sayin'. "Hey mom! I'm a spartan! I can do anything! All I'd have done is go TOGA and all would've been well!"....And the last sounds heard on the voice recorder were incredulous screams of arrogant disbelief, before hitting some bulidngs and killing who knows how many innocent people? Not including themselves, of course, since that would've merely served to prevent some aditional decline in the human gene pool.

 

[EastCheats]

Hey, idiot.
 
During that entire period, I earned more than you on a "bankruptcy" contract.  What exactly does that have to say about the westhole non-bankruptcy contract that earned you less flying the same 757s?

The arbitration board had something to say about it.

The ALPA Arbitration Board

-------------------------------------------------------------x

In the Matter of the Seniority Integration of
The Pilots of US Airways, Inc.
and
The Pilots of America West Airlines, Inc.

-------------------------------------------------------------x

The ALPA Arbitration Board


George Nicolau, Chairman
Captain Stephen Gillen, Pilot Neutral
Captain James P. Brucia, Pilot Neutral


Discussion and Analysis

Yet, it cannot be disputed that there were differences in the financial condition of both carriers
and that US Airways was the weaker. This necessarily means that career expectations differed and that US Airways pilots had more to gain from the merger than their new colleagues. Gains also came in other ways. Though the US Airway pilots argue that the collective bargaining agreements are comparable, that is not the case. In pay, the America West Contract is better for comparable aircraft except for the B757. Though A330 and B767 pay did not exist at America West, those 19 aircraft are only 5%


OK Homer, you are one of those 5%ers. What about the other 95%?
I've got news for you, Homer. The world does not revolve around NYC bus drivers.

 

[EastUS1]

I've got news for you, Homer. The world does not revolve around NYC bus drivers.

 
No worries then kid. Sing "you'se" self to sleep at night with sugarplum fairy visions that you'll yet be magically advanced light years beyond your personal "worth" and actual experience. Nycbusdriver needs no "education" from any arrogant, clueless punks like "you'se" self. He's actually seen the world and how life really works. "I've got news for you, Homer. The world does not revolve around" ANY of us, much less pathetic little pissants like "you'se" self....

 

[EastCheats]

No worries then kid. Sing "you'se" self to sleep at night with sugarplum fairy visions that you'll yet be magically advanced light years beyond your personal "worth" and actual experience. Nycbusdriver needs no "education" from any arrogant, clueless punks like "you'se" self. He's actually seen the world and how life really works. "I've got news for you, Homer. The world does not revolve around" ANY of us, much less pathetic little pissants like "you'se" self....

Yawn.....

 

[EastUS1]

Yawn.....

 
Stay willfully asleep, utterly oblivious and entirely unconcious for so long as "you'se" want kid. That costs none of us anything. The world will often and cheerfully bite your ass off if you do though, so don't be surprised whenever it does.
 
Nearly 8 years and counting, and your whole "big deal" in life's just the nic? Whew! Have you led a sheltered little "life" so far, or what? I'd suggest not wasting the next 8 years of your "life" vainly waiting on some/ANY miracle to magically make yourself "worthy". Get what you need out of life through your own efforts and merits instead...Just a kindly suggestion. If this internecine squabbling over seniority's taught you nothing else; it should've made very apparent that you can't ever count on ANY outside agencies to make your dreams real.
 
I know, I know..."Yawn"...And with that goes your "yawn" excuse for a "life". = "I do believe in fairies, I do, I do" 😉

 

[EastCheats]

Don't forget, Goodbye NIC, goodbye AOL.

Are you sure about that? If history is an indicator, your side will not heed warning signs and press on like you have before. Fine with me.

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[EastUS1]

Are you sure about that? If history is an indicator, your side will not heed warning signs and press on like you have before. Fine with me.

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EastCheats: "If history is an indicator,"...? Seriously? You actually posted that?...And "that career expectations differed? OK.  So; how have ANY of "you'se" expectations actually proven out? Take at least small step outside of Fantasyland son. It'd do "you'se" a world of good...Or don't. No others are harmed by your failing to do so. Confuse none of that with fantasy notions of trying to "divide" or otherwise, in any way impede "spartan" goals. Take your very best shots. I've long-since written "you'se" off as completely ineffectual jokes.

 

[luvthe9]

Are you sure about that? If history is an indicator, your side will not heed warning signs and press on like you have before. Fine with me.

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History has already shown you scabs have not done one thing right, pretty scary you can't see that son. Enjoy all that growth in PHX.

 

[luvthe9]

EastCheats: "If history is an indicator,"...? Seriously? You actually posted that?...And "that career expectations differed? OK.  So; how have ANY of "you'se" expectations actually proven out? Take at least small step outside of Fantasyland son. It'd do "you'se" a world of good...Or don't. None others are harmed by your failing to do so.

These clowns are beyond stupid, mind boggling.

 

[EastUS1]

These clowns are beyond stupid, mind boggling.

 
In full fairness to the PHX folks though 9? What's left here are merely their most rabid little "angry first officers", and the PHX folks aren't all jerks by any means. I've talked with a number of their also "elder" Captains that I think any of us would be happy to socialize with....the obvious problem there is that says nothing about their drooling, "spartan" first officers...the sorry likes of which we see posting here, and which I'd never have any wish to see crewed with me as other than chocks, at best.
 
Bottom Line: Any man/woman with enough flying/life experience gains at least some degree of functional perspective. The typically mindless "spartan" punk that posts here has nothing of the sort to offer....but just a "Waah!....Gimme my lollipop!"  fantasy instead.

 

[EastCheats]

EastCheats: "If history is an indicator,"...? Seriously? You actually posted that?...And "that career expectations differed? OK.  So; how have ANY of "you'se" expectations actually proven out? Take at least small step outside of Fantasyland son. It'd do "you'se" a world of good...Or don't. None others are harmed by your failing to do so. Confuse none of that with fantasy notions of trying to "divide" or otherwise, in any way impede "spartan" goals. I've long-since written "you'se" off as completely ineffectual jokes.

You actually posted that I posted that?

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George Nicolau advised your side to come up with a more reasonable proposal. You did not.

You got the Nic.

I expected a similar stance from the East, producing similar results.