2015 Pilot Discussion.

[luvthe9]

^^^^^^^^^^


Poor little NICless AFO, must really suck being you watching all the east upward massive movement and being locked in PHX.


You should have taken the NIC when it was offered, AOL-stupid, right

 

[Phoenix]

If USAPA and APA meet to agree on a list prior to arbitration, does the west get to attend the meeting? I realize as now they get to attend any arbitration meetings in July, should they occur.

Uncle Bob C. advised the APA that they should come up with a list rather than go to arbitration. After the way APA "leadership" played political games and bumbled any opportunity for the JCBA to be negotiated, I have zero confidence that the same idiots could negotiate a list for a trip to the grocery store.

 

[EastUS1]

Uncle Bob C. advised the APA that they should come up with a list rather than go to arbitration. After the way APA "leadership" played political games and bumbled any opportunity for the JCBA to be negotiated, I have zero confidence that the same idiots could negotiate a list for a trip to the grocery store.

 
Agreed. I'd further suggest that they'd likely have tremendous trouble even deciding on the most appropriate grocery store...

 

[Claxon]

Uncle Bob C. advised the APA that they should come up with a list rather than go to arbitration. After the way APA "leadership" played political games and bumbled any opportunity for the JCBA to be negotiated, I have zero confidence that the same idiots could negotiate a list for a trip to the grocery store.

Jerry Glass fleeced the awa group easily. They will vote for anything that has a larger W2 attached. And the APA went down with no trouble as well. Glass tied them up hard with his deal he put together for Parker.

 

[Claxon]

Ask Metroyet why the only group of pilots to work for a legacy air carrier and unable to fly WIDEBODY aircraft happen to be former west pilots.
Could it possibly be due to the gross miscalculation of Eric Ferguson?

 

[nycbusdriver]

They have a fairly arbitrated list and the best merger attorney in the country. The East has nothing but delusions of grandeur, insatiable entitlement, and a long record of immoral, unethical behavior that continues to the very day of the arbitration. Things like stealing dues money to be used against the membership won't go unnoticed. You're obviously scared of those "morons". You should be as a level playing field has always been you scabs' worst nightmare.

 
"Delusions" of grandeur?  Look at the movement....THE ACTUAL UPWARD MOVEMENT...of our seniority list.   
 
That's no delusion.
 
How's yours doing?  :LOL:

 

[luvthe9]

Ask Metroyet why the only group of pilots to work for a legacy air carrier and unable to fly WIDEBODY aircraft happen to be former west pilots.
Could it possibly be due to the gross miscalculation of Eric Ferguson?

Don't forget the other idiot, Koontz, Those two clowns sure did a number on their own pilot group, does not pay to be greedy, hope they learned their lesson.

 

[EastCheats]

Don't forget the other idiot, Koontz, Those two clowns sure did a number on their own pilot group, does not pay to be greedy, hope they learned their lesson.

Greedy? Listen here you dumba$$, it was an arbitration, a process which turned out to be a huge waste of resources and an arbitrator's time. The only lesson I learned after arbitration and the RICO suit is that we are dealing with the unorganized criminally minded.

The lesson I learned and the APA is aware.

Btw, have you decided you've been here 33 or 34 years? Which lie are you going to stick with?

 

[EastUS1]

Greedy? Listen here you dumba$$, it was an arbitration, a process which turned out to be a huge waste of resources and an arbitrator's time.

 
And "you'se" time and resources as well, it would seem.  Per "Greedy?"... Just exactly how many more years worked than yourself would the east's "fellow pilot" just below you on the nic nonsense have had? Don't overly strain your supposed "integrity" if you're just pathologically unable to provide an honest answer.
 
P.S. "The lesson I learned and the APA is aware." Whoopee for "you'se". No doubt the APA's the strongest friends that "sparta"/PHX could ever want to have...at least in your strange little mind, but their only purpose going forward into an SLI arbitration is to put everyone else as far below them as they possibly can. "You'se" sorts would do well to take at least an occasional step outside of Fantasyland. Had your group ever done so years earlier; you wouldn't be stuck in PHX to this day, just sayin'....

 

[EastUS1]

.... does not pay to be greedy, hope they learned their lesson.

 
Some obviously haven't, at least as yet.

 

[luvthe9]

Greedy? Listen here you dumba$$, it was an arbitration, a process which turned out to be a huge waste of resources and an arbitrator's time. The only lesson I learned after arbitration and the RICO suit is that we are dealing with the unorganized criminally minded.
The lesson I learned and the APA is aware.
Btw, have you decided you've been here 33 or 34 years? Which lie are you going to stick with?

So sorry you did not take the NIC when offered, you and your AFO club have destroyed the careers of your fellow west pilots, that's a fact so get over it.


And a few months away from 34 since your so interested, does it really matter.


The APA already told you where you can shove your NIC, but hey feel free to try.

 

[EastUS1]

...., you and your AFO club have destroyed the careers of your fellow west pilots, that's a fact so get over it.
 

 
Oh hardly. The vast majority of the AWA, self-styled "Army" of "spartans" cult couldn't land jobs at any major airline, else it's axiomatic that they'd largely have done so. Now, and through absolutely NO fault, effort or personal qualifications; they sit within the world's largest airline, and currently are completely dazzled (at least momentariliy) seeing hourly rates they'd never before even dreamed of...and yet they whine over the nic nonsense. Go figure.
 
If one had the required time and resources needed for serious study; there are clearly even more clinically interesting issues in play than that of fully demonstrated arrested development to be considered.

 

[luvthe9]

Oh hardly. The vast majority of the AWA cult couldn't land jobs at any major airline, else it's axiomatic that they'd largely have done so. Now, and through absolutely NO fault, effort or personal qualifications; they sit within the world's largest airline, and currently are completely dazzled (at least momentariliy) seeing hourly rates they'd never before even dreamed of...and yet they whine over the nic nonsense. Go figure.
 
If one had the required time and resources needed for serious study; there are clearly even more clinically interesting issues in play than that of fully demonstrated arrested development to be considered.

How true, AWA is where you went when you could not get hired anywhere.

 

[EastUS1]

How true, AWA is where you went when you could not get hired anywhere.

 
What other group of "pilots" anywhere else on earth ever saw fit to insanely "criticize" the flight crew's handling of FLT 1549? That alone should tell anyone whatever they need to know. If that's insufficient; I again give the following for reasonable reference,...oh "Lords and Ladies" and many (clearly heroically) "Battles" tested, "Dire Wolf" T-shirt-sporting "Knights":
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT8H9smpK3U
 
 
To remove any remaining doubts as to social "class" and "education"; the following's available (as are many more of the same, sad sort) for any of "you'se" to see. Amazingly; the below's also and actually a proud production made by the west contingent...I'm not kidding folks:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N66EvBBj5tQ
 
 
 
 
 
While many HR departments at major airlines try to bias their candidates in favor of their corporate wishes, the most notable having been Delta, which lost a suit against their policy of seeking only those least likely to provide non-company-men/women "assertive personalities", well....It's a safe bet that nothing/zip/zero was EVER done in the way of IQ, education and/or psych screening for AWA. I may well be evidencing some undue, personal prejudice here, so I'll leave those videos open for all "you'se" to fairly consider.

 

[EastUS1]

While many HR departments at major airlines try to bias their candidates in favor of their corporate wishes, the most notable having been Delta, which lost a suit against their policy of seeking only those least likely to provide non-company-men/women "assertive personalities", well....It's a safe bet that nothing/zip/zero was EVER done in the way of IQ, education and/or psych screening for AWA. I may well be evidencing some undue, personal prejudice here, so I'll leave those videos open for all "you'se" to fairly consider.
 
In all fairness to any misplaced concerns over social "class" and "education" though; we do have the recently exemplified excellence of "Eastcheats" to consider as well: "Greedy? Listen here you dumba$$,"
 
One can't help but envision yet some more double-fisted/simian-finger-pointing, accompanied by another hearty "you'se" or two.......I suppose that the earlier "spartan's": "You know why I hate you?...I hate ever one of you'se" cogent and certainly "intelligent" general argument can't help but infectiously slip over into equally "great minds".....It sadly seems that the only true constraint against nowadays becoming a "supposed Pilot" in America is having a mommy who'll write all the checks for equally only supposed "training", or not, a Dept of Trans/FAA that doesn't even require everyone to parallel park a car to get a driver's "license"/etc....and AWA clearly agreed with that fully.
 
Don't care 'bout none a' that.  Who'll work the cheapest?..Better yet; for next to nothing?...And thus was AWA born.