2015 Pilot Discussion.

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FL430 said:
But yet that same arbitration board made a decision that you and Clax have absolutely zero power or authority to refute. ( the west getting a seat)
. Well we do not but maybe your to many consultations with Dave Ciab, leave you perplexed, bottom line the 9th circuit has the appeal, this time they will more than likely expand the current situation leaving the APA in a position of vulnerability to many lawsuits. That arbitration board was the result of protocol agreement that has no standing under federal law. Our Merger attorney Wilder pointed this out many times! The l9th has the appeal my guess 90 days they rule, lawsuits fly after that! MM
 
FL430 said:
But yet that same arbitration board made a decision that you and Clax have absolutely zero power or authority to refute. ( the west getting a seat)

You be sure to tell them all you westies brought to the table. Your seat will be in the ladies room.
 
Claxon said:
 
This will not go to arbitration, an SLI agreement with fences, between the legal parties APA and USAPA, will be accomplished.    
 
You know the West MC (Moron Committee) will never agree to ANY negotiated settlement that does not give them credit for personally (by their extraordinary flying skills) saving two airlines, and therefore super-seniority over the East pilots and even over the AA pilots.
 
Without the West MC agreeing, there has to be an arbtiration.   However, I would not want to be on the West MC in front of the arbitration panel trying to explain why I didn't agree to a reasonable negotiated list.  Do you think the arbitrators have the self-control to not  roll their eyes at the West Morons making "their case"?
 
Claxon said:
The arbitration panel came to a conclusion with the list of of facts and conditions that they were provided.  They completed their mission.  I feel it was a fair decision, considering the rules of conduct they were under.
 
Basically the west pilots are given the right to provide their list of pilots.
This will not go to arbitration, an SLI agreement with fences, between the legal parties APA and USAPA, will be accomplished.
You can bet your life this SLI is going to arbitration. Only someone with a known mental Illness would think otherwise. USAPA isnt a "legal party" to anything. It owes no DFR to anyone...it's an irrelevant non-profit LLC in NC. That's it.
 
Metroyet said:
You can bet your life this SLI is going to arbitration. Only someone with a known mental Illness would think otherwise. USAPA isnt a "legal party" to anything. It owes no DFR to anyone...it's an irrelevant non-profit LLC in NC. That's it.
 
 
I agree.  In typical fashion, the west morons will overplay the hand they THINK they have, and get disappointed yet again.
 
nycbusdriver said:
I agree.  In typical fashion, the west morons will overplay the hand they THINK they have, and get disappointed yet again.
They have a fairly arbitrated list and the best merger attorney in the country. The East has nothing but delusions of grandeur, insatiable entitlement, and a long record of immoral, unethical behavior that continues to the very day of the arbitration. Things like stealing dues money to be used against the membership won't go unnoticed. You're obviously scared of those "morons". You should be as a level playing field has always been you scabs' worst nightmare. :lol:
 
If USAPA and APA meet to agree on a list prior to arbitration, does the west get to attend the meeting? I realize as now they get to attend any arbitration meetings in July, should they occur.
 
nevergiveup said:
If USAPA and APA meet to agree on a list prior to arbitration, does the west get to attend the meeting? I realize as now they get to attend any arbitration meetings should they occur.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
Metroyet said:
You can bet your life this SLI is going to arbitration. Only someone with a known mental Illness would think otherwise. USAPA isnt a "legal party" to anything. It owes no DFR to anyone...it's an irrelevant non-profit LLC in NC. That's it.
Yup..and they can subtract about $4 million off their LLC fund which is not being funded.

:lol:
 
Metroyet said:
..... You're obviously scared of those "morons". You should be as a level playing field has always been you scabs' worst nightmare. :lol:
 
You're obviously insane. There's just no kinder way of putting it. Nycbusdriver has long held 330 command and would've, even on the nic obscenity, kept his seniority above the whole west list. What possible reason could "you'se" imagine, in even your deepest "spartan" delusions, for him to be "scared" of anything here?
 
Perhaps a gentle suggestion to tread a bit more lightly on your "The East has nothing but delusions of grandeur, insatiable entitlement,.." nonsense is in order here.
 
Metroyet: "They have a fairly arbitrated list...." Sigh...Don't forget the added power vested in "you'se" by all those "Integrity Matters" T-shirts, "Liberty" ties, and even a standing "Army" of "spartans" as well...Not to mention nearly drowning in an ocean of infantile self righteousness.  How could you even possibly fall short of your dreams? Have fun, and good luck with your fantasies.
 
P.S. The wholesale "intelligence" and "character" of such as yourself was evidenced years ago at Wye River, when the nic was offered with fences that would've expired by now, but NO!..."You'se" instead, "righteously" demanded everything be handed to you immediately and on a silver platter. How well did that work out for you?...And yet here you are again delusionally demanding that the whole world spin around the insignificant axis of PHX.
 
Metroyet said:
You can bet your life this SLI is going to arbitration. Only someone with a known mental Illness would think otherwise. USAPA isnt a "legal party" to anything. It owes no DFR to anyone...it's an irrelevant non-profit LLC in NC. That's it.
Ask Eric why he passed on the Nicolau with restrictions which would be long gone. west pilots could have right now be sitting in 330 Capt. seats. west pilots would be taking hundreds of 320 Capt upgrades. Look in the mirror. You should have never put your fate in the hands of a 2004 hire. You are losing much more than any east LOA 93 pilot.
Your decision capability is poor at best.
 
west pilots shot themselves in the foot again. It is no secret east pilot Ciabattoni has been trying to fire Wilder. west pilots failure to pay final USAPA dues denied them their Ciabattoni vote, and Wilder removal. Smart move west pilots.
Stephen Bradford, the west anti Christ still in power.
 
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