2015 Pilot Discussion.

[EastCheats]

america west pilots snapshot for snap this.  2013.  LAS is no longer a base.
 
No wide bodies, no growth, no bases. 
 
Best of luck to you west.

Hey Claxon, that's old news. Looky here at today's news. Feeling a bit left out yourself?

AWE

(CNN)American Airlines has delivered a small gift to fans of Boeing's advanced jet, the 787 Dreamliner.

The airline announced routes Wednesday for the first 787s to join American's fleet.

"Nice to have another U.S. airline with a 787, finally," aviation enthusiast and frequent flier Jason Rabinowitz tweeted to CNN. Since 2012, United has been the only U.S. airline to operate the sleek, super-efficient Dreamliners. "It's always nice to see a new type enter a fleet."

American announced a domestic Dreamliner route from Dallas-Fort Worth to Chicago O'Hare beginning May 7. Starting in June, passengers can fly American Airlines Dreamliners from Dallas-Forth Worth to Beijing and to Buenos Aires.

Appropriately for Dreaminer lovers, booking is expected to begin on Valentine's Day.

 

[Phoenix]

My integrity is doing just fine, thank you very much. Good ol Steve Bradford goes hunting for a slick attorney to tell him binding was not binding. Now hand me some green so I will to tell you whatever you want to hear. Leonidas was formed to defend against those who don't have any integrity whatsoever.
It's been worth it to be a prick in your side, people like Mike Cleary.

What.. Do you think your integrity is the majic blue pill for Marty?

 

[nevergiveup]

Exactly!! Binding is binding...and any Union inherits all obligations from any preceding FBA's. That's STATUS QUO as defined by the RLA. You had years and endless resources to change the agreement. You failed.
Enjoy another round of final and binding arbitration sweet pea.

So why again is the Nic not being used?

 

[Claxon]

Hey Claxon, that's old news. Looky here at today's news. Feeling a bit left out yourself?

AWE

 

You have no chance of sitting in a 787 or an A330 the rest of your career.  The East pilots have nothing against a 10 year 787 fence minimum for American Pilots. 
 
American Pilots only want to keep what the brought to a merger, East pilots only want to keep what they brought to a merger.
 
west pilots do not want what they brought to the merger, they want everybody else's piece of the pie.
 
west will only get a humble piece of the pie.

 

[EastUS1]

Hey Claxon, that's old news. Looky here at today's news. Feeling a bit left out yourself?

AWE

The airline announced routes Wednesday for the first 787s to join American's fleet.

 
I see. So now it's the manifest destiny of "sparta" to take even their future 787 seats away from the American pilots, purely through the power of self "righteousness" and completely contrived "seniority"? Umm....OK then. After all; what could possibly be a more "reasonable" an assumption than that? Whew!...This should be fun to watch.
 
P.S. Not to put too fine a point on it, but "you'se" might well profit through contemplating just how well ANY of your group's assumptions have, since 2005, actually played out in reality for the PHX folks.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWwkBL0VMXE

 

[EastUS1]

....This process is going to remove the * symbol because the APA knows they are dealing with a group that will always find an asterisk to get out of an agreement.

 
Yes, yes indeed. It's long been known that the APA's the truest possible, even apex paradigm for fairness and integrity....Just ask the TWA people, and will naturally find themselves entirely overwhelmed, even religiously inspired, and perhaps even left speechless (that part I don't doubt) by your "army's" vast oceans of "integrity" as well. Heck, I'm just surprised they haven't already commissioned monuments to the AWA "spartans" in all their domiciles.
 
The APA's only real concern for the upcoming SLI establishment is how best to try and squash the US contingent under their shoe soles, and if "you'se" can even imagine that PHX holds any especially tender place in their hearts well, two words for for your benefit then: Grow up.

 

[Phoenix]

Yes, yes indeed. It's long been known that the APA's the truest possible, even apex paradigm for fairness and integrity....Just ask the TWA people, and will naturally find themselves entirely overwhelmed, even religiously inspired, and perhaps even left speechless (that part I don't doubt) by your "army's" vast oceans of "integrity" as well. Heck, I'm just surprised they haven't already commissioned monuments to the AWA "spartans" in all their domiciles.
 
Grow up.

Don't be too tough on them. It's nice to have them scurrying around again.. for a laugh or two.

 

[EastUS1]

Don't be too tough on them. It's nice to have them scurrying around again.. for a laugh or two.

 
A fair point that. As my only defense, I offer that the suggestion to grow up, if accepted, would spare some of these kids a great deal of trouble and needless stress in their lives to come...

 

[EastUS1]

Enjoy another round of final and binding arbitration...

 
"...another round of final and binding..."...?
 
Anyone else want that one? I'd be a bit embarrassed to take such low hanging fruit.

 

[EastUS1]

It's been worth it to be a prick in your side,....

 
Consider the following: Time spent on the net's most often done for business, education or mostly amusement/distraction. Which of those categories do "you'se" honestly imagine yourself in?...Oh mighty "spartan" and now self-styled "prick"?

 

[Phoenix]

Consider the following: Time spent on the net's most often done for business, education or mostly amusement/distraction. Which of those categories do "you'se" honestly imagine yourself in?...Oh mighty "spartan" self-styled "prick"?

Time for the Cactus joke... "Cactus, we have pricks.. but not always on the outside."

 

[EastUS1]

They get pretty shrill as the meltdown continues and reality sets in.

 
It was fully predictable. After all; many years of their most cherished fantasies will shortly be put to the test. I'm only surprised that there've not yet been more of  "the nic on steroids"--"this is sparta!"/etc fantasies shouted thus far. Sigh....I almost wistfully miss the "old days" of 2007: "Booyooshaka!"..."Final and Binding!"..."It's OVER!...Get used to it!", "Ho ho ho! St nic is coming to town!" and of course "You wont' even get 200 cards!"..."Send the cards, I DARE you!"..And which of us will ever be able to recall all the infamous "T-Minus" countdown clocks the west set, without at least a chuckle or two?
 
What most honestly amazed me in all this was when the west chose to put their faith and funds in the sorry likes of some insanely infantile narcissist, who's only real "credentials" were being a 2004 AWA new hire with NO significant flying experience, but possesive of the ego and "maturity" of at best a 14 year old, who's posted fantasies of making "the ultimate sacrifice" amounted to nothing more than perhaps just losing some job, and who could, however amazingly, actually self-style as the "Supreme Commander" of some Fantasyland "Army" of supposed "spartans"...and YET, instead of having anything even approaching actual Pilots immediately just laugh him off the stage, gain supposedly "intelligent professionals" to buy into such infantile BS. That was worthy of some honest study in arrested development of it's self. I've found it all to be a fascinating aberration.

 

[EastCheats]

Claxon sees himself in a museum. East US has visions/delusions of grandeur. Probably in the bottom of a shot glass. Both are certifiable

cer·ti·fi·a·ble
ˈsərdəˌfīəb(ə)l/
adjective
1.
able or needing to be certified.
"encephalitis was a certifiable condition"
2.
officially recognized as needing treatment for a mental disorder.

 

[EastUS1]

Claxon sees himself in a museum. East US has visions/delusions of grandeur. Probably in the bottom of a shot glass. Both are certifiable

cer·ti·fi·a·ble
ˈsərdəˌfīəb(ə)l/
adjective
1.
able or needing to be certified.
"encephalitis was a certifiable condition"
2.
officially recognized as needing treatment for a mental disorder.

 
I've a long posted (for seven years now), open wager that fully invites "you'se" pathetic likes to literally show the whole world, on video, both your inestimable "intelligence" and flying "skills" in actual "action"...."cap'n keyboard". A codicile of the wager acceptance would require allowing after "action" video posting to whatever internet venues the victor deems appropriate.  The only "certifiable" part would be with signing the needed documents to agree to the wager conditions and equally agreeably, disperse wagered funds afterwards. PM if ever in posession of a magically newborn spine or "mind"....What's stopping "you'se"? Why would I want to even wipe my shoes off on "you'se" otherwise?..Only laughably supposed "Pilot"?
 
"East US has visions/delusions of grandeur. Probably in the bottom of a shot glass. Both are certifiable " Demonstrate my delusional failings for the world to see. I'm momentarily bored, or I'd not be on this thread fishing for "spartans". You are cordially invited to show literally the whole world the presumed validity of your childish fantasies. What's your problem with that kid?..."Waah!...I want my mommy!...Or at least my lawyer!"...Mighty "Pilot"?
 
Again...Grow up.

 

[EastUS1]

 
I've a long posted (for seven years now), open wager that fully invites "you'se" pathetic likes to literally show the whole world, on video, both your inestimable "intelligence" and flying "skills" in actual "action"...."cap'n keyboard". A codicile of the wager acceptance would require allowing after "action" video posting to whatever internet venues the victor deems appropriate.  The only "certifiable" part would be with signing the needed documents to agree to the wager conditions and equally agreeably, disperse wagered funds afterwards. PM if ever in posession of a magically newborn spine or "mind"....What's stopping "you'se"? Why would I want to even wipe my shoes off on "you'se" otherwise?..Only laughably supposed "Pilot"?
 
"East US has visions/delusions of grandeur. Probably in the bottom of a shot glass. Both are certifiable " Demonstrate my delusional failings for the world to see. I'm momentarily bored, or I'd not be on this thread fishing for "spartans". You are cordially invited to show literally the whole world the presumed validity of your childish fantasies. What's your problem with that kid?..."Waah!...I want my mommy!...Or at least my lawyer!"...Mighty "Pilot"?
 
Again...Grow up.

 
 
P.S. I see the best that "sparta" can again ever offer in response is a devastating minus vote. Sigh...In lieu of decades of aerial "dancing"; I suppose it's a true pity "you'se" can't just pull out an XBox or Playstation online here, and truly show me just who's who and what's what instead.  Just FYI: My generation have no foolish notions of giving "trophies" just for "participating", and I really couldn't possibly care less about your many-times-made-clear and basically pathetic, "self esteem" issues "EastCheats".