2015 Pilot Discussion.
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snapthis
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nycbusdriver said:
They are right, here's an example of how you get the info to vote Y or N:
LAX & PHX Domiciles to Co-Host Telephone Town Hall Meeting Thursday
The LAX domicile will join the PHX domicile’s previously scheduled Telephone Town Hall Meeting teleconference beginning at 6 p.m. CST on Thursday, Jan. 29.
A few minutes before the scheduled start time, Telephone Town Hall Meeting will call LAX and PHX members using the primary cell phone number on record with APA. We encourage you to answer this initial call. The telephone number 817-302-2287 will appear in your caller ID. If you’re unable to answer the initial call, you may connect via the Web link posted to the two domiciles’ home pages and to the center “slider image” section of the members’ home page of alliedpilots.org. Also, you may call in toll-free at 1-877-353-4701, but we recommend you connect via the Web link if you cannot answer the initial call since each call to the toll-free number triggers a charge to APA.
If your schedule permits, we encourage you to join this teleconference before JCBA voting closes at 9 a.m. CST on Friday, Jan. 30.
nycbusdriver
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luvthe9 said:
You really need to get that application in to Delta if you expect to get Delta compensation.
APA is politically and commercially checkmated by Parker et al. It happened with the signing of the MOU. But they still don't know it.
nycbusdriver
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Well, both APA and USAPA signed the MOU. If you care to characterize them as idiots, that is your privilege.luvthe9 said:
Also, if you are aware that you are too old for Delta, maybe reality can actually penetrate your world.
This is NOT Delta...never will be. AA has the foundation for being as great, or greater, than Delta, but does not have the leadership necessary to develop it along those lines. (Somehow, I thought this would not be news to you.) Until that leadership is in place, FORGET about Delta compensation. It's NOT going to happen. The Tempe "brain trust" could not even do a good imitation of Delta management, or of Southwest management, for that matter.
I am a realist, and I know pissing into the wind only gets me stinky and wet, as will "standing stong against the mean old CEO." That cost-neutral arbitration will leave us stinky and wet, and little else.
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I most certainly do, and I have to agree with the above, but also we have such a very weak pilot group, very weak. To bad all 15,000 can't stand united the way the Spirit pilots did, you could have anything you want at any time, just takes backbone. Ashame we don't have more fighters than realists.nycbusdriver said:
T-24.........
traderjake
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This dimwit spent the last 5 years trying to screw 1/3 of his fellow pilots and now cries about lack of unity.
Res Judicata
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GFY you hypocrit scab loser.luvthe9 said:
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Tomorrow's Headlines : American Airlines pilots get the largest raise in airline history!
OR
American Airlines pilots unbelievably turn down the largest raise offered in airline history.
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American Airlines pilots unbelievably turn down the largest raise offered in airline history.
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westcoastflyer said:
No. I think the more appropriate headline....at least on the forum...was posted in November by IORFA when the APFA members voted down the company proposed contract:
And the delightful thing in this instance is: No matter which way it goes, it's absolutely correct, depending on one's point of view!
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Somebody has their 675 dollar tie a little to tight around their neck. So sorry about your NIC, can't wait for the APA response when you bring that up.Res Judicata said:
PS. Remember you are the scabs!
STILL OUR FAVORITE........
Polygraph Statement of Mr. Mark C. Doyal
I had always wanted to be an FBI agent. With that singular goal in mind, I enrolled in Southwest Texas State University in the fall of 1988. My major was Law Enforcement with a minor in Economics. I graduated in December 1990 and I took the written FBI exam that next January. I passed and was scheduled for an interview in March of 1991. The interview went great and I achieved a perfect score. However, the FBI determined that I needed more experience and informed me to re-apply in two years. I immediately took the Law School Admissions Test and applied to South Texas College of Law in Houston, Texas. I was excepted for the class beginning in January 1991. I was fortunate in that I was able to obtain employment on a full time basis with the Harris County District Attorney's Office - Economic Crime Division. I remember my new boss asking me after he interviewed me what I planned on achieving with a law career. I immediately responded that I wanted a career with the FBI. Everyone who I met knew that that was my goal.
Working full time for the District Attorney while attending law school at night was tough, but I knew I had to get the right kind of experience and education to make myself the best possible candidate for the FBI. Upon graduation from law school (Dec. 1994), I re-applied with the FBI. I was scheduled to take the written exam on a Monday following the Bar exam. I again passed the written exam and had to wait to be selected for the interview. I wrote letters nearly every month to the applicant coordinator asking to be interviewed and explaining what I was doing each month. Finally, I was selected to be interviewed in Kansas City in July of 1996. Seven of us in our region were selected to go, but only two of us passed the interview process. Myself and another girl. I was on top of the world, knowing that I was about to realize my dream.
The polygraph exam was next, August 7, 1996, in San Antonio, Texas. I knew I had nothing to worry about, since I had never violated the FBI's drug policy and I had not lied on my application. The agent administering the polygraph noted during the pre- polygraph interview that I had attended a university that he believed was a "party school" and that I needed to tell him what drugs I used when I went there. I stated that I had taken none, that I didn't live on campus, I lived in another city, and that I was an older student and wasn't influenced to do such things. He repeated that that couldnít be the case and told me again to tell him what illegal drugs I had done. I countered again that that just wasn't the case and that I was telling the truth. This went back and forth for about 10 minutes and he seemed to be getting upset that I wouldnít admit to taking drugs. Finally he stated that if I was lying he was about to find out. I was upset at the unbelievable accusations he was making. Up until that point I had been treated with the utmost professionalism by the FBI staff, now I was being treated like an accused criminal. After the polygraph was over, he told me I had failed. I almost passed out in disbelief
I wrote several letters to FBI Director Freeh, and in October of 1996 I was polygraphed again, by another agent with the first agent who polygraphed me present. The results were the same, he told me I had failed. I just could not believe it. I had not lied on the polygraph. Even the first agent that had polygraphed me told me as I was leaving that he now believed me, that I was telling the truth. I wrote the Director several more times to no avail, my application was terminated in November of that year. My dreams were shattered.
Finally, as a side note, I later applied with the Secret Service. I did just as well in the testing and interview stages as I had with the FBI. When it came time for the polygraph, the agent administering it asked me if I had been polygraphed before. I told him yes, and under what circumstances and the results. He thanked me for my honesty, unhooked me from the polygraph without testing me and told me that he would have to contact his superiors for their advice. I could not believe it. Two months later I received a form letter stating that I was no longer competitive with the other agent applicants. I am a licensed attorney, professional pilot, have law enforcement experience and with top scores but I was not competitive? Obviously I had been "black balled" by the erroneous polygraph results from the FBI.
I will probably always be effected by the injustice of what happened. I wrote a final letter to Director Freeh this summer asking for another polygraph. I even offered to pay all expenses associated with retaking it if I were to fail. I guess I still haven't accepted that you can fail a polygraph while telling the truth. Or the fact that the FBI could make this kind of mistake. I had always looked up to that agency as the pinnacle of professionalism. I received the same form letter back that I had received almost two years earlier. It is a shame, since all I wanted to do was to have a chance to serve my country and make my family proud.
Sincerely,
Mark C. Doyal
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I'm one of those co-workers and you tried to screw me out of an agreed process with the founding of USAPA. My other co-worker, Trader has the stones to stand up for his other co-workers which USAPA claimed to represent. He's not falling for your intimidation tactics and that's what frustrates you. He's not falling for your 7th grade bully tactics on the playground. Grow up.luvthe9 said:
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