2015 Pilot Discussion.

[N924PS]

Hmmm...Well now I have to ask: What sample could that possibly be? Is it no longer now the west's contention that nothing of the sort was ever sent?
 
If you're honestly, however laughably, actually trying to be "clever" here; you might want to at least strive to up your game a bit.

USAPA Faithful In Action:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zfBG0d5Oj3c

 

[EastUS1]

Did the guilty parcel have a return address?

 
The phone numbers certainly did, or are "you'se" just working/hoping for wholesale denial in general here?
 
Seriously; what kind of even the most hopeless and complete village idiots make barrages of such calls from their very own, everyday useage phones? The terms Stupidly Arrogant and Utterly Clueless don't even begin to serve there.

 

[EastCheats]

USAPA Faithful In Action:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zfBG0d5Oj3c

Just in time. We need another tamer for the Cowardly Lion.

 

[EastCheats]

The phone numbers certainly did, or are "you'se" just working/hoping for wholesale denial in general here?

Dial 1-800-dismiss

With prejudice

 

[FL430]

Dial 1-800-dismiss
With prejudice

How much did it cost you though? And you immediately ceased the behavior, was it worth it?

 

[FL430]

Yea and your side did not count on us banding together to defend our co-workers. The intent was to intimidate and bankrupt pilots. An act which backfired and contributed to the continued existence of Leonidas. Thank Mike Cleary for the one event which unified the West pilots.
Bravo Mike, bravo

Who cares if you are unified, a ship of fools can be unified, but the ship can still sink.
You have already been sunk but are too stupid to realize it.

 

[EastCheats]

How much did it cost you though? And you immediately ceased the behavior, was it worth it?

What behavior? I think you made the whole thing up and you certainly did not prove your case.

Was your sceme worth $300,000?

12 US AIRLINE PILOTS ASSOCIATION v. AWAPPA
It is no surprise, then, that the conduct USAP A alleges
closely resembles conduct we have found not to demonstrate
continuity after H.J. Inc. See, e.g., GE Inv. Partners, 247 F.3d
at 549 (finding no continuity where the defendants' "single
goal" was to fraudulently inflate the value of and then sell
their controlling interest in a company); Menasco, 886 F.2d at
684 (finding no continuity where "[djefendants' actions were
narrowly directed towards a single ... goal," "involved but
one set of victims," and took place over a relatively short
period of time).
Because the appropriate "commonsensical, fact-specific"
examination of the allegations in USAPA's complaint fails to
yield a pattern of racketeering activity, USAPA has failed to
state a cognizable RICO claim. See Menasco, 886 F.2d at 684.
Accordingly, the district court did not err in granting the
defendants' motion to dismiss the complaint.
IV.
We can quickly dispose of USAPA's remaining
contentions-that the district court erred in denying it leave
to amend its complaint and in refusing to grant it injunctive
relief.
"We review the district court's denial ofleave to amend the
complaint for an abuse of discretion." GE Inv. Partners, 247
F.3d at 548. The district court does not abuse its discretion in
denying leave when "amendment would be futile. II ld. Having
reviewed the proposed amendments. we conclude that they
would have no impact on the outcome of the motion to dis-
miss. Thus. the district court did not abuse its discretion.
We also review the grant or denial of injunctive relief for
an abuse of discretion. See MUffley ex reI. NLRB v. Spartan
Mining Co . 570 F.3d 534. 543 (4th Cir. 2009). Because
USAPA's complaint failed to state a claim upon which relief
could be granted

 

[FL430]

What behavior? I think you made the whole thing up and you certainly did not prove your case.
Was your sceme worth $300,000?
12 US AIRLINE PILOTS ASSOCIATION v. AWAPPA
It is no surprise, then, that the conduct USAP A alleges
closely resembles conduct we have found not to demonstrate
continuity after H.J. Inc. See, e.g., GE Inv. Partners, 247 F.3d
at 549 (finding no continuity where the defendants' "single
goal" was to fraudulently inflate the value of and then sell
their controlling interest in a company); Menasco, 886 F.2d at
684 (finding no continuity where "[djefendants' actions were
narrowly directed towards a single ... goal," "involved but
one set of victims," and took place over a relatively short
period of time).
Because the appropriate "commonsensical, fact-specific"
examination of the allegations in USAPA's complaint fails to
yield a pattern of racketeering activity, USAPA has failed to
state a cognizable RICO claim. See Menasco, 886 F.2d at 684.
Accordingly, the district court did not err in granting the
defendants' motion to dismiss the complaint.
IV.
We can quickly dispose of USAPA's remaining
contentions-that the district court erred in denying it leave
to amend its complaint and in refusing to grant it injunctive
relief.
"We review the district court's denial ofleave to amend the
complaint for an abuse of discretion." GE Inv. Partners, 247
F.3d at 548. The district court does not abuse its discretion in
denying leave when "amendment would be futile. II ld. Having
reviewed the proposed amendments. we conclude that they
would have no impact on the outcome of the motion to dis-
miss. Thus. the district court did not abuse its discretion.
We also review the grant or denial of injunctive relief for
an abuse of discretion. See MUffley ex reI. NLRB v. Spartan
Mining Co . 570 F.3d 534. 543 (4th Cir. 2009). Because
USAPA's complaint failed to state a claim upon which relief
could be granted

Didn't have to prove the case, just making you dig into your pockets did the trick. Yea, it was worth it, you paid the east to fund it then you also had to pay to defend it. So who is the stupid one.

You wanted a war and you got it. You could have fixed it at Wye river, now you are just crying a river.

 

[EastCheats]

Who cares if you are unified, a ship of fools can be unified, but the ship can still sink.
You have already been sunk but are too stupid to realize it.

Whatever you say, Homer. It looks like you'be been doing some paddling yourself since USSapa was sunk.

http://i.imgur.com/xZ3Nxiv.gif

 

[EastCheats]

Didn't have to prove the case, just making you dig into your pockets did the trick. Yea, it was worth it, you paid the east to fund it then you also had to pay to defend it. So who is the stupid one.
You wanted a war and you got it. You could have fixed it at Wye river, now you are just crying a river.

Wye me a river

 

[CactusPilot1]

I can understand you hating the message but you don't have to hate the messenger!

And I'm so glad you love those ties so well, you will be removing them shortly. Remember the post you made recently about the tie...... "And there's nothing you can do about it"
You really crack me up!

You lied about the tie policy, scumbag. I wore mine today. I won't be removing it anytime soon. Not until we finish the job.

How much did it cost you though? And you immediately ceased the behavior, was it worth it?

How long did it take you to fabricate a story against West pilots? I hope our legal team nails your 13 to the wall. Money well spent.

 

[nycbusdriver]

It took a lot of courage for Cactus18 to stand up against the new union, 

 
Yeah, right.  The same kind of courage it takes to swim out of a rip tide.  When you decide to fight for your life (here figuratively), it's an insult to real courage to call that courageous.
 
Not that I fault them for defending themselves against the legal onslaught.  Every one of us would have done the exact same thing, no matter the merits, or lack thereof, of the lawsuit.  It's just calling their actions in the interest of personal financial survival "courageous" is ludicrous.

 

[EastCheats]

Yeah, right.  The same kind of courage it takes to swim out of a rip tide.  When you decide to fight for your life (here figuratively), it's an insult to real courage to call that courageous.
 
Not that I fault them for defending themselves against the legal onslaught.  Every one of us would have done the exact same thing, no matter the merits, or lack thereof, of the lawsuit.  It's just calling their actions in the interest of personal financial survival "courageous" is ludicrous.

You rang?

I think your side had this plan the whole time. The plan being to come up with false accusations and blame it on West pilots. Then putting pressure on them to admit to "crimes" not committed. It took a lot of courage to stand up on principle which is probably a foreign concept to you.

I don't believe USAPA's version of events and neither did the courts. If there was criminal activity,
why were there no arrests. It sounds like those false ID theft charges which were also dismissed
after this court defeat.

There seems to be an unethical pattern with Usapians.

From the blog:

They said that they received feces through the mail. I dont know if they did or not. All they did was say they did. They never gave a name of who did it. They said that the post office reported they had received a package. So the USAPA office never received it so no harm was caused. If the post office did received anything they are the ones that may have a claim of damage. Why has the USPS not filed charges or done anything in regard to this so called package?

USAPA claimed that they received several calls to the safety hotline. They never gave a number or the nature of those calls. They never gave a name of anyone that made those calls.

USAPA stated several times in their updates that this was criminal activity. So you have to ask yourself. If it was criminal why did a prosecutor not follow-up on this case? Maybe because he looked at the facts and saw it for what it was. A witch hunt meant to intimidate the very people that USAPA claims to represent.

In the meantime, certain individual defendants have inquired with USAPA concerning the possibility of settlement. ( An absolute flat out lie. Seham the USAPA attorney started contacting the defendants even before we were served. No one inquired into anything.) Due to the fact that the litigation is in its early stages, USAPA has responded -- depending on the conduct of the particular defendant -- with either low-cost or no-cost offers of settlement contingent on the individual's commitment to refrain from future unlawful conduct. (There was no low cost no cost option. The offers I saw were for a minimum of $1000.00. What USAPA really wanted was someone to testify against our fellow pilots. Lying about a conspiracy that never happened. That is not a low cost no cost offer. That is a very high price indeed. Selling out yourself, lying in court and selling out your fellow pilots.)

 

[EastUS1]

 It took a lot of courage.....

 
Sigh!...Sure it did kid. After all; what more terror-stricken moment can a human being possibly ever have then when hiring some lawyer(s)? Best go "award" yourself at least 1 or 2 Oak Leaf Clusters to your umm..."heroic" Cactus 18 "bling" now, buy another "Liberty" tie, perhaps even a "dire wolf" T-shirt/whatever...Or you could otherwise just consider growing up.

 

[EastUS1]

 
Yeah, right.  The same kind of courage it takes to swim out of a rip tide.  When you decide to fight for your life (here figuratively), it's an insult to real courage to call that courageous.
 
Not that I fault them for defending themselves against the legal onslaught.  Every one of us would have done the exact same thing, no matter the merits, or lack thereof, of the lawsuit.  It's just calling their actions in the interest of personal financial survival "courageous" is ludicrous.

 
Indeed.