2015 Pilot Discussion.

[Claxon]

He had a job with the EAA
While the East management placed ultimatums on West pilots to return to work or be fired while on LOA, FO Skiles gets a sweetheart deal.
Jan 2012
Miracle on the Hudson co-pilot Jeff Skiles has a new job, and it means he won't be going back to work at US Airways.
Skiles, 52, of Oregon, has been named vice president of chapters and youth organizations for the Experimental Aircraft Association in Oshkosh

Why don't you sue him then? Pretty much have sued everyone else. What's' one more?

 

[Claxon]

LuvClaxon..you two have a special bond. Is it that sticky goo of Usapianism that keeps you two together? Eww

For being a man of the book you seem to stray into the gutter on a regular basis.

 

[CactusPilot1]

Why don't you sue him then? Pretty much have sued everyone else. What's' one more?

Thanks to USAPA, both Sully and Skiles were in court since only months after the "miracle on the Hudson" might translate into a miracle in court. The judge and the jury agreed their celebrity status had no place in the courtroom. That very jury found USAPA guilty of the DFR. They saw right through your sham motives.

Sidebar conversation during Skiles' testimony which the jury could not hear was very telling:

Sidebar

THE COURT: All right. Mr. Seham, on this issue of
Mr. Skiles' celebrity status I want to give you the chance to
explain why that is relevant to this case.

MR. SEHAM: Okay. It's not about his celebrity
status. He's an individual who directly benefitted from
USAPA's array of service. Their contention is that this union
is a one trick pony, that it was only ever about one issue. If
that is no longer a contention of the plaintiffs, then we'd
have no interest in pursuing this kind of testimony. But, in
fact, USAPA is about providing a better service, and that
provision of the better service is in the interests of the
entire bargaining unit, which is directly relevant to the
concept of a DFR, that this union was needed to provide service
to this bargaining unit that it could not, was not, would never
get from ALPA.

THE COURT: All right. I've given you the chance to
make your record. You've given me no reason why the reference
to the events of the crash in the Hudson River is relevant to
this case, and I will make my record that it is irrelevant, it
is highly distracting, it is an indirect attempt to appeal to
emotion, and I exclude it for those reasons under 403 in a very
clear way.

 

[CactusPilot1]

For being a man of the book you seem to stray into the gutter on a regular basis.

Cleary has no business being a judge of moral character.

Dismissed

 

[EastCheats]

Where is your combined DOH list you promised? Is USAPA representing the West? How close to getting off LOA93 were you without the APA fixing it for you? In the pre-arb, that panel never said anything about the Nic not being used. Quite the contrary actually asking who the "new" Nicolau was supposed to be. Pauley's story was clearly BS and they clearly saw that. Also, No Judge ever said the Nic couldn't be used. Quite the contrary...powerful evidence and all.  A personal liability suit against usapa principles was just green lit by a Federal Judge. Delay is the only thing you achieved out of this mess and the shrinking of PHX has been dumb luck for the East. The delay has cost well over a Billion dollars of lost income for the pilot group and you arrogant fools were getting 2 out of every 3 upgrades anyway. The Delay is over. USAPA is dead, and the SLI is moving ahead.
 
You'll be getting the Nic as well.In fact, you'll be lucky if it's just the Nic award. The group is so big now you won't even notice the West piling on top of you. Just be glad you're shrink wrote you a letter allowing your medical retirement Mike. You really don't want to be on the list of 13, they and their families lives are going to be financially ruined.  I can't wait.

It looks like USAPA LLC's money is going to be tied up until the NC case is settled. I wonder how good their credit is? They may need to get that Taurus back and sell it for scrap and sell yellow U-stupid lanyards so their attorneys won't bail on them.

This is going to be fun to watch.

 

[Phoenix]

Maybe he can chip in to the Scab13 legal fund. Let's see:
3 million dollars illegally spent....that's $231,000 each they need to pay back.
They need a legal team paid for out of pocket
they might be paying the West legal team...which will be as expensive as humanly possible.
and possibly additional fines.
 
I'm sure the Scab13 are resting easy. There's only 1500 people who hate their guts willing to pay as long as it takes to take every personal asset and bankrupt each one of them via litigation that a Federal judge saw "good reason" to move forward.
 
What's the plan if the Judge freezes USCABA bank accounts? That's what's being asked of him as well.
 
How epically stupid were those idiots that ran for the fake election to a fake union? That decision will be costing them the rest of their lives. I'm sure their spouses are plenty happy about this as well.

The two most essential axioms of an ambulance chasing lawyer:

1. An emotionally driven client that is obsessed about personal revenge is the easiest to exploit.
2. Never admit to your client that they may lose until AFTER you have exploited all their financial means, else they will surely use whatever financial means they have left to sue you when their perineal emotional revenge is redirected to you. A broke client is a harmless client.

You should take notice about who has been emotionally spending their child's inheritance chasing implicit assumptions wrapped pretty in verbose red tape and mountains of frivolous legal briefs.

 

[EastCheats]

The two most essential axioms of an ambulance chasing lawyer:
1. An emotionally driven client that is obsessed about personal revenge is the easiest to exploit.
2. Never admit to your client that they may lose until AFTER you have exploited all their financial means, else they will surely use whatever financial means they have left to sue you when their perineal emotional revenge is redirected to you. A broke client is a harmless client.
You should take notice about who has been emotionally spending their child's inheritance chasing implicit assumptions wrapped pretty in verbose red tape and mountains of frivolous legal briefs.

Perineal emotional revenge

Verbose red tape

Implicit assumptions

Are you taking over EastUS's duties while he sleeps it off 😉<<<<<gotta throw in emoticons too.

 

[Metroyet]

The two most essential axioms of an ambulance chasing lawyer:
1. An emotionally driven client that is obsessed about personal revenge is the easiest to exploit.
2. Never admit to your client that they may lose until AFTER you have exploited all their financial means, else they will surely use whatever financial means they have left to sue you when their perineal emotional revenge is redirected to you. A broke client is a harmless client.
You should take notice about who has been emotionally spending their child's inheritance chasing implicit assumptions wrapped pretty in verbose red tape and mountains of frivolous legal briefs.

Sounds like Lee $eham when he stole 2 million from you emotional fools. Does APA have a CIRP team for you after this arbitration? Some of your more hysterical Easties will need it.

 

[luvthe9]

The two most essential axioms of an ambulance chasing lawyer:
1. An emotionally driven client that is obsessed about personal revenge is the easiest to exploit.
2. Never admit to your client that they may lose until AFTER you have exploited all their financial means, else they will surely use whatever financial means they have left to sue you when their perineal emotional revenge is redirected to you. A broke client is a harmless client.
You should take notice about who has been emotionally spending their child's inheritance chasing implicit assumptions wrapped pretty in verbose red tape and mountains of frivolous legal briefs.

And they will never get a dime back, what ashame.


This has been fun to watch.

 

[luvthe9]

Sounds like Lee $eham when he stole 2 million from you emotional fools. Does APA have a CIRP team for you after this arbitration? Some of your more hysterical Easties will need it.

Hey Kev, which list you shooting for?

 

[Claxon]

Are the named USAPA members in jail yet and stripped of financial wherewithal?

 

[nycbusdriver]

Perineal emotional revenge

Verbose red tape

Implicit assumptions

Are you taking over EastUS's duties while he sleeps it off 😉<<<<<gotta throw in emoticons too.

 
 
Oooh.  Nice comeback.  You really refuted all of Phoenix's remarks with that one, Mr.Emotionally Driven Client.

 

[EastCheats]

 
 
Oooh.  Nice comeback.  You really refuted all of Phoenix's remarks with that one, Mr.Emotionally Driven Client.

 
I think you have me confused with Steve Bradford who is the original emotionally driven client.

 

[Phoenix]

I think you have me confused with Steve Bradford who is the original emotionally driven client.

You cannot deny Bradford was sucessful because he is the most boring, logical, unemotional, pencil neck statistician. Watch the YouTube videos of him in the desert being spittled by a ravenous pack of barking hyenas, yet he more than any other USAPA founder remained calm.

He could see years beyond anyone in that room, including Lee S.

 

[EastCheats]

You cannot deny Bradford was sucessful because he is the most boring, logical, unemotional, pencil neck statistician. Watch the YouTube videos of him in the desert being spittled by a ravenous pack of barking hyenas, yet he more than any other USAPA founder remained calm.
He could see years beyond anyone in that room, including Lee S.

I found someone who matches your description.View attachment 10624

Is that his happy face?