WN Mechanics seek mediation

[B737 driver]

The only time you are allowed to strike is if this ever gets to self help. If that happens you are an “at will” employee. I know you already know this. An approved strike vote does not mean you strike. It’s just in case everything goes to hell an you don’t have much to lose anymore. Better to be prepared than not at all.

Unfortunately strikes don't work anymore unless you are a pilot. So that's a no win situation, better to take an o.k contract then lose your job. If they did what Northwest contracted all C checks out, they could effectively run the operation with 1200 mechanics. Your GSE , tech support, maintenance controller, and tech instructors wouldn't walk, don't know about inspection. So the company knows it's an empty threat. Most people on their surveys said **** No to a strike. So the point is mute.

 

[I’ll have another]

Unfortunately strikes don't work anymore unless you are a pilot. So that's a no win situation, better to take an o.k contract then lose your job. If they did what Northwest contracted all C checks out, they could effectively run the operation with 1200 mechanics. Your GSE , tech support, maintenance controller, and tech instructors wouldn't walk, don't know about inspection. So the company knows it's an empty threat. Most people on their surveys said **** No to a strike. So the point is mute.

I don’t know if most said that on the survey. Just a few of you on this thread. Why were the UPS mechanics so bold to vote yes to strike? If i recall it was an overwhelming vote. That’s part of the reason they have a good contract and we have a goose egg. I brought this strike vote subject up about a year ago. I’ll do it again a year from now. Until then, I’ll have another.

 

[B737 driver]

I don’t know if most said that on the survey. Just a few of you on this thread. Why were the UPS mechanics so bold to vote yes to strike? If i recall it was an overwhelming vote. That’s part of the reason they have a good contract and we have a goose egg. I brought this strike vote subject up about a year ago. I’ll do it again a year from now. Until then, I’ll have another.

The difference , all of UPS are Teamsters, so the shipping can help them out. We are 2400 guys that can't do a whole lot without getting sued. You want Teamsters power, then get rid of AMFA, and you might get some respect.

 

[I’ll have another]

The difference , all of UPS are Teamsters, so the shipping can help them out. We are 2400 guys that can't do a whole lot without getting sued. You want Teamsters power, then get rid of AMFA, and you might get some respect.

I get it. You get it. But doesn’t seem to ring with others on this thread. A lot of guys I work with would vote the Teamsters back in. Nonetheless, a strike committee should be formed. It needs to be discussed if this gets real ugly.

 

[swamt]

Well if you settle , and ratify the contract it will all go away. I love how you guys justify what a judge will do. Last time I looked we are aircraft mechanics. Even if you prove they are legitimate write ups, you still have to prove it wasn't a job action because someone got pissed off, and decided to C check the airplane.

Teamsters aren't stupid, and can back stuff up. These guys don't have a clue, and trust everything our union tells them. SWA is doing exactly what they said they would do last year.

Really dude? Are you serious?? teamsters can't back shite up. they are nothing but threatening thugs. If you really want the teamsters back, "START THE FKING CARD DIVE DRIVER" C'mon, what are YOU afraid of, kick start it and sign your name to it. They will be sent packing as they have 2 times now. Good luck there...

 

[B737 driver]

I get it. You get it. But doesn’t seem to ring with others on this thread. A lot of guys I work with would vote the Teamsters back in. Nonetheless, a strike committee should be formed. It needs to be discussed if this gets real ugly.

Where I am at we would vote Teamsters back in. If AMFA feels they will be replaced they will drag it out. So we just spin our wheels. This Forum is just like Facebook, only the AMFA supporters are talking the loudest. It's like hitting your head against a brick wall. So if this how this union operates you might as well vote the next offer in, and get paid more to do the same job. Save for your retirement and move on.

 

[I’ll have another]

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Really dude? Are you serious?? teamsters can't back shite up. they are nothing but threatening thugs. If you really want the teamsters back, "START THE FKING CARD DIVE DRIVER" C'mon, what are YOU afraid of, kick start it and sign your name to it. They will be sent packing as they have 2 times now. Good luck there...

Take a good read of the UPS mechanic contract and see what the “thugs” did for the teamster-mechanics at UPS.

 

[B737 driver]

Really dude? Are you serious?? teamsters can't back shite up. they are nothing but threatening thugs. If you really want the teamsters back, "START THE FKING CARD DIVE DRIVER" C'mon, what are YOU afraid of, kick start it and sign your name to it. They will be sent packing as they have 2 times now. Good luck there...

Because you guys are so brainwashed it's pointless.

 

[swamt]

Unfortunately strikes don't work anymore unless you are a pilot. So that's a no win situation, better to take an o.k contract then lose your job. If they did what Northwest contracted all C checks out, they could effectively run the operation with 1200 mechanics. Your GSE , tech support, maintenance controller, and tech instructors wouldn't walk, don't know about inspection. So the company knows it's an empty threat. Most people on their surveys said **** No to a strike. So the point is mute.

And how do you know this? Hmmmm...

 

[swamt]

And how do you know this? Hmmmm...

You don't...

 

[swamt]

Back to realization. Here's an article saying southwest is losing millions per week. Not sure if that is very true or not. But, IF that were the case would it not be "smart" to get a deal done now? After reading the comments listed for this article, I would think so. This crap really needs to end soon or it will get too ugly and never get turned back around.

CEO says Southwest is losing millions weekly in labor fight

Take notice folks, the co is still fighting this in the media, not the union. Wonder why that is? Hmmm...

 

[I’ll have another]

Back to realization. Here's an article saying southwest is losing millions per week. Not sure if that is very true or not. But, IF that were the case would it not be "smart" to get a deal done now? After reading the comments listed for this article, I would think so. This crap really needs to end soon or it will get too ugly and never get turned back around.

CEO says Southwest is losing millions weekly in labor fight

Take notice folks, the co is still fighting this in the media, not the union. Wonder why that is? Hmmm...

We’ll see how laser focused SWA is to get a deal done in about a week and a half from now. If it turns out to be lemons, we need to form a strike committee and ratchet things up.

 

[swamt]

We’ll see how laser focused SWA is to get a deal done in about a week and a half from now. If it turns out to be lemons, we need to form a strike committee and ratchet things up.

Actually one week from yesterday. And both sides better get a clue, stop the personalization attacks and finger pointing, get in there and get a deal done. "BOTH SIDES NEED TO MOVE" Why in the world is the union and the company paying for this mediator that cannot move both sides closer together? She just keeps raking in the money, all the while it keeps going on and on now doesn't she???

 

[I’ll have another]

Actually one week from yesterday. And both sides better get a clue, stop the personalization attacks and finger pointing, get in there and get a deal done. "BOTH SIDES NEED TO MOVE" Why in the world is the union and the company paying for this mediator that cannot move both sides closer together? She just keeps raking in the money, all the while it keeps going on and on now doesn't she???

I thought the ta we voted down was just fine except the pay was a bit low. If they bumped it up a bit, it would have passed and everything would have been ok. But, as we can see, SWA does not want to get a deal done by throwing a monkey wrench in it with international outsourcing and a 16 hour rule. The Indians are getting restless. The drum beats are getting louder.

 

[B737 driver]

And how do you know this? Hmmmm...

I know people's nature, it's easy to hide in a forum and talk all tough. It's another thing to turn down 53 54 an hour and strike, or cause problems. You say the pilots group and TWU backs us, you start cutting into their profit sharing and retirement, they will drop you after a while. We have been this for over 6 years, you don't think they could replace you in all that time. I guarantee Landon to telling Gary turn me loose I beat AMFA once, I will beat them again. When they fired the guy from Dallas look how long it took AMFA to get his job back. The company could be real mean if they wanted too and fire say 20% of the guys they are blaming for the slow down. They did that and told AMFA to spend the money to get them back, the write ups would drop. Because people would wonder if they were next. Then you could say the culture is gone, and we are truly just like the other legacy airlines.