WN Mechanics seek mediation

Nope don't believe you, you were about the money! I was as long as our scope kept our numbers the same, and we got a decent raise, I was ok with it. You sir and your Lieutenants are after the money.
Ok, you knew what I weighed the most and I did not. C'mon man get a clue. They were hand and hand for me.
 
Here's the latest on the CBS 8 month investigation. With AMFA and TWU press release. Good stuff man. There was action taken at SWA on some...

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Press Release: Local 591, Transport Workers Union and Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association Response to CBS Morning News Report on Coercion of Aircraft Maintenance Technicians
February 4, 2019 -- Two of the leading union representatives of aircraft maintenance technicians (AMTs) – Local 591, Transport Workers Union (TWU) and the Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association (AMFA) – issued a joint statement in response to the CBS Morning News report on the coercion of aircraft maintenance technicians. TWU Local 591 represents the aircraft line maintenance technicians of American Airlines and AMFA represents the aircraft maintenance technicians of Southwest Airlines and Alaska Airlines.
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Blog: Southwest Airlines Maintenance Technicians Respond to “CBS This Morning” Report On Airline Safety
February 4, 2019 -- As the FAA has found, Southwest Airlines maintenance managers engage in coercive tactics that result in a “capitulation of airworthiness and a culture of fear and retribution.” American law, specifically the AIR 21 whistleblower statute, has provided the necessary means to resist management pressure to turn a blind eye to corrosion, gouges, and other significant aircraft damage.
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AMFA - SWA Technician Negotiations Update #72
February 3, 2019 -- After six and a half years of negotiations and a tentative agreement rejected by the membership, Southwest Airlines continues to delay and obstruct as opposed to negotiate in good faith.

Download: 20190125_AMFA_Info_Request_to_SWA.pdf , 20190201_SWA_Rsp_to_AMFA_Info_request.pdf
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Nope don't believe you, you were about the money! I was as long as our scope kept our numbers the same, and we got a decent raise, I was ok with it. You sir and your Lieutenants are after the money.

And they’ve pretty much destroyed a substantial amount of compounded capital gains 401K interest they could have accumulated by dragging this out.

driver didn’t the Company offer AMFA to extend out the Contract 7 years ago and it was AMFA who wanted a full Section 6 opener?

Did they just go around in circles for 6 years to end up back where they started and then rejected that once again?

?????
 
Here's the latest on the CBS 8 month investigation. With AMFA and TWU press release. Good stuff man. There was action taken at SWA on some...

LATEST NEWS
Press Release: Local 591, Transport Workers Union and Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association Response to CBS Morning News Report on Coercion of Aircraft Maintenance Technicians
February 4, 2019 -- Two of the leading union representatives of aircraft maintenance technicians (AMTs) – Local 591, Transport Workers Union (TWU) and the Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association (AMFA) – issued a joint statement in response to the CBS Morning News report on the coercion of aircraft maintenance technicians. TWU Local 591 represents the aircraft line maintenance technicians of American Airlines and AMFA represents the aircraft maintenance technicians of Southwest Airlines and Alaska Airlines.
Read More

Blog: Southwest Airlines Maintenance Technicians Respond to “CBS This Morning” Report On Airline Safety
February 4, 2019 -- As the FAA has found, Southwest Airlines maintenance managers engage in coercive tactics that result in a “capitulation of airworthiness and a culture of fear and retribution.” American law, specifically the AIR 21 whistleblower statute, has provided the necessary means to resist management pressure to turn a blind eye to corrosion, gouges, and other significant aircraft damage.
Read More

AMFA - SWA Technician Negotiations Update #72
February 3, 2019 -- After six and a half years of negotiations and a tentative agreement rejected by the membership, Southwest Airlines continues to delay and obstruct as opposed to negotiate in good faith.

Download: 20190125_AMFA_Info_Request_to_SWA.pdf , 20190201_SWA_Rsp_to_AMFA_Info_request.pdf
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I guess swamp is pretending he’s ignoring me again, lol.
 
Opps. Didn't mean to repost the update. Didn't realize I included it with the other responses. Oh well, kinds of goes with it though...
 
I guess swamp is pretending he’s ignoring me again, lol.
When you sit there and post lies and make up things I have said I will ignore you. Not gonna sit here play your little childish games, I know as well as the others know what you and GVP are trying to do, not gonna work...
 
Opps. Didn't mean to repost the update. Didn't realize I included it with the other responses. Oh well, kinds of goes with it though...

And you also reposted it on the American Airlines thread after I already posted it.

Do you just not pay attention or are you craving attention?

When you sit there and post lies and make up things I have said I will ignore you. Not gonna sit here play your little childish games, I know as well as the others know what you and GVP are trying to do, not gonna work...

I NEVER lie and I NEVER make things up.

I don’t live in your Wheelhouse Sir.
 
Here's the latest on the CBS 8 month investigation. With AMFA and TWU press release. Good stuff man. There was action taken at SWA on some...

LATEST NEWS
Press Release: Local 591, Transport Workers Union and Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association Response to CBS Morning News Report on Coercion of Aircraft Maintenance Technicians
February 4, 2019 -- Two of the leading union representatives of aircraft maintenance technicians (AMTs) – Local 591, Transport Workers Union (TWU) and the Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association (AMFA) – issued a joint statement in response to the CBS Morning News report on the coercion of aircraft maintenance technicians. TWU Local 591 represents the aircraft line maintenance technicians of American Airlines and AMFA represents the aircraft maintenance technicians of Southwest Airlines and Alaska Airlines.
Read More

Blog: Southwest Airlines Maintenance Technicians Respond to “CBS This Morning” Report On Airline Safety
February 4, 2019 -- As the FAA has found, Southwest Airlines maintenance managers engage in coercive tactics that result in a “capitulation of airworthiness and a culture of fear and retribution.” American law, specifically the AIR 21 whistleblower statute, has provided the necessary means to resist management pressure to turn a blind eye to corrosion, gouges, and other significant aircraft damage.
Read More

AMFA - SWA Technician Negotiations Update #72
February 3, 2019 -- After six and a half years of negotiations and a tentative agreement rejected by the membership, Southwest Airlines continues to delay and obstruct as opposed to negotiate in good faith.

Download: 20190125_AMFA_Info_Request_to_SWA.pdf , 20190201_SWA_Rsp_to_AMFA_Info_request.pdf
Read More
Boy AMFA and you loves to post sensitive information on a public forum, you are not to bright.
 
And they’ve pretty much destroyed a substantial amount of compounded capital gains 401K interest they could have accumulated by dragging this out.

driver didn’t the Company offer AMFA to extend out the Contract 7 years ago and it was AMFA who wanted a full Section 6 opener?

Did they just go around in circles for 6 years to end up back where they started and then rejected that once again?

?????
Yes they did AMFA said no because that was Teamsters language they wanted to try to change, and SWA management handed AMFA their ass. AMFA is almost following the same playbook at Northwest, let's see how many jobs they and Seham can destroy this time.
 
Yes they did AMFA said no because that was Teamsters language they wanted to try to change, and SWA management handed AMFA their ass. AMFA is almost following the same playbook at Northwest, let's see how many jobs they and Seham can destroy this time.


I don’t think AMFA as an organization had much of a choice. If it wants to survive as a viable entity into the future it had/has to find a way to prove itself by charting its own destiny.

The sad part is that they have relented apparently on expanding their Scope language written by others and have reached and are content with regaining Status Quo and are now back to square one focusing on where they started. $$Money$$

I wonder how long before they relent to that one next?
 
I don’t think AMFA as an organization had much of a choice. If it wants to survive as a viable entity into the future it had/has to find a way to prove itself by charting its own destiny.

The sad part is that they have relented apparently on expanding their Scope language written by others and have reached and are content with regaining Status Quo and are now back to square one focusing on where they started. $$Money$$

I wonder how long before they relent to that one next?
It will depend on when the membership gets Fed up, with No raise. Northwest guys were without a raise for 10 years, when AMFA took that group from the IAM, and had bad contract language for work, that management took total advantage of. Our group wants more money with no scope changes. SWA management has to compete with Spirit and other low cost carriers. They will pay more, but they want work rule changes. So how much can we really get, successfully vote in , without losing to much scope. That's true negotiations and anyone with a brain knows that. So Weazz you as a union member, you know what that is at American. So our group has to realize that, or AMFA will set the record for section 6 negotiations.
 
I have to step in. Amfa has never/ I repeat never negotiated a contract with the big boys that stood up for time in good and bad. There infamous money grab from NWA had them laying members off at sign on snd devasted their group to 50% of members left on renegotiation. The rest is history. The SWA agreement is Teamster contract with extensions their whole time. This is first time amfa went in under section .6 to try and negotiate an agreement. Unbelievable way of business. I still ask and never have got an answer where the hell is Sehem. Still hiding in gopher hole that SWA amt trying to get backhoe to dig out. File another lawsuit. The lawsuits are still on hold and can't wait for the outcome. In the mean time I have lots friends in industry there and feel for the hard workin SWA techs. Don't give up guys. Keep doin what u do. I will wait for the attack and rebuttal from SWA amt and his rabid dogs. Once again I will step out and could be wrong and say they are not Union representives or stewards of the workforce but internet boys that like to talk loud and have no stroke or influence on the membership. My opinion. Go Figure
 
I have to step in. Amfa has never/ I repeat never negotiated a contract with the big boys that stood up for time in good and bad. There infamous money grab from NWA had them laying members off at sign on snd devasted their group to 50% of members left on renegotiation. The rest is history. The SWA agreement is Teamster contract with extensions their whole time. This is first time amfa went in under section .6 to try and negotiate an agreement. Unbelievable way of business. I still ask and never have got an answer where the hell is Sehem. Still hiding in gopher hole that SWA amt trying to get backhoe to dig out. File another lawsuit. The lawsuits are still on hold and can't wait for the outcome. In the mean time I have lots friends in industry there and feel for the hard workin SWA techs. Don't give up guys. Keep doin what u do. I will wait for the attack and rebuttal from SWA amt and his rabid dogs. Once again I will step out and could be wrong and say they are not Union representives or stewards of the workforce but internet boys that like to talk loud and have no stroke or influence on the membership. My opinion. Go Figure
Hey Go Figure , I will bite here. Most of these guys are from Dallas, or Midway, they are used to extensions and a raise, and move on with some improvements. No one ever thought it would take this long. We started trying to get money for some scope changes, but just minor changes. Then the company said fine, we want this and this. Then AMFA tried to hang onto scope, and nothing happened. The ETOPS was dragging on, So SWA management finally said you can keep your scope and threw some more money on the table. In the past that was enough and we would move on. But this time at the road shows they convinced people to vote No, we had some leverage with ETOPS, and the company would have another offer. They are going to get their ETOPS without us, much to people's dismay. So the only card we have to play to try to force a contract is claim through the media SWA is forcing mechanics to sign stuff off, or ignore it. The other remaining card to try to force a settlement is a lawsuit trying to block the ETOPS flights. However a Federal judge is going to ask you if it is your language why did you not file a grievance processes, and then arbitration?. So that's where we are at.
 
February 6, 2019

Doug Parker, CEO

American Airlines

Mr. Parker:

The Transport Workers Union of America (“TWU”) has members that are employed as Line Maintenance Aircraft Maintenance Technicians across the country. The recent series of CBS News stories has brought the nation’s attention to American Airlines’ unsafe, illegal, and intimidating management practices. The TWU stands with the and supports the courageous aircraft technicians who participated in these news stories. We also stand ready to defend them and any other TWU Aircraft Maintenance Technicians who suffer retaliation for working in accordance with proper maintenance manual standards. A debt of gratitude is owed to these individuals by the traveling public, their fellow technicians, and the airlines themselves.

As CEO of American Airlines, you are responsible for the pervasive practice of intimidation that exists. It is atrocious and immoral that, solely in order to improve the company’s profitability, you would allow and oversee a system that potentially places air travelers at risk. You must correct this deadly serious situation. The first step in correcting these conditions is to first recognize that your company has a problem, and thus far you’ve failed to do so.

American Airlines Senior Vice President David Seymour stated in the CBS report, with respect to aircraft mechanic whistleblower cases, “almost all of them have been dismissed.”

That is a bold-faced lie. American Airlines has settled a mind-boggling number of whistleblower cases originating from their Miami, Dallas, and Chicago operations and, in each case, management has demanded that non-disclosure agreements be executed in order to hide the financial settlements you have entered into. These non-disclosure agreements are your tool to perpetuate the ongoing cycle of abuse.

With respect to the Chicago case involving six aircraft mechanic whistleblowers, the FAA report determined:

• American Airlines “…pressured [mechanics] to not record discrepancies, take shortcuts with maintenance activities, or improperly sign-off on work which was not actually completed.”

• “An [FAA] investigation team … conducted an exemplary investigation, interviewing dozens of witnesses and gathering hundreds of documents, ultimately substantiating all of the complainants’ allegations.”1

Among the specific allegations substantiated by the cited investigation was that Regional Maintenance Director Evita Rodriguez – now known as Evita Garces – instructed American Airlines technicians:

“You need to strike a balance between safety and productivity. When I was stationed in JFK, I signed for sumping [of aircraft fuel tanks on] the Airbus, yet I never did. I am looking for that balance.

Instead of terminating Ms. Garces, on November 13, 2018, American Airlines promoted her to the new position of American Airlines Director of Maintenance (DOM). In this role, Ms. Garces will now be working hand-in-hand with the FAA. This action sends a horrific message to the Line Maintenance Aircraft Technicians.

It is long past time for you, as CEO, to start making the leadership changes necessary to stop this harassment of TWU members. The chilling atmosphere you oversee is disgraceful and constitutes a clear and present danger to American Airlines’ customers.

Sincerely,

John Samuelsen, President

Transport Workers Union of America
 

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