If you don't have a game plan, it wouldn't matter who you had. My best guess, if they ever had an election at American Airlines. The TWU would win, and the others would lose. They already had a card drive when everyone was pissed off from the bankruptcy crap, and AMFA got 8 votes. When the mechanics at American see we take 6 years to get an agreement in principle, and Parker and company are a lot tougher than SWA management, I would say the TWU wins.
But now they want us to vote it down, because other airlines, are getting paid more, guess what they have been paid more for a long time, because we are in The Movie Ground hog day, stuck back in 2012.
That's exactly what our ALR stated, oh another thing that pissed me off, we are $34,000 short in union dues, maybe because of legal expenses, Go Figure! The ALR was we should hold out, because we have always been higher than others, and we deserve more. The chart they use if you don't get the full 2018 raise, in 20 years, the average mechanic would be $200,000 short in money. I say what about the thousands we have lost in 6 years. And now you want me to vote no, so I can go 7 or 8 years, sorry that dog won't hunt.
Actually the retirees will get paid, even dead and passed mechanics family will get retro and bonuses just like the Pilots. That was one of the biggies, full retro for all who deserves it. So folks that retire will still get what they deserve for being here during the last 5.5 years. It's a lot more than a couple hundred chief. You should read the updates better as it was all in there.
He's a consultant hired by the Association! Lol!
Wrong again skippy. 401K will be retro'd from a different account from the 91 mil. So we will get most all back minus only the compounding which might come to a few shares of stock. I have read all the updates posted on the treads, I do not go out and hunt for them though.
That's all well and Good, but if you look at the return on your account from 2012 to now, even with the match money, you missed out on 6 years of compounded returns, because my 401k , with my investments in the last 5 years, has averaged an 18% return. Not to mention your profit sharing is based on what you made. So your math is bad, it's more than a few shares of stock. Also if we say no, we don't get anything!
Our associationis a joke. Two unions fighting each other. Fighting the company and the membership is divided. I see this going to September 12th and beyond. In reality we have contracts in place and the company has absolutely no reason to negotiate a JCBA before we get within a few months of our current CBA. So six years is something that we at AA will or might see in the future. You guys here at SWA keep pressing on to get what you deserve. It may take more time but better safe than sorry. I know guys are pissed and are out of patience but negotiations is a two party process. Get it right the first time. Unfortunately for us at AA it's not a two party process. It's actually three. TWU, IAM and American Airlines.
I hope you guys don't go that long, the main thing that pisses the majority of us off, is delay after delay. We could've done an extension, but AMFA didn't do that. We blew it on not getting a contract for the Airtran buyout. They almost had a deal last year on scope, and then asked for impossible economics. When you ask when we will vote on something last year, your LOCAL ALR tells you , that you're to stupid to vote. Now we are waiting for them to sign off on a T/A, but they want us to vote it down. People are just fed up! I wish you guys luck at American.
