Kev3188
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Lol.
But they can "demand" gates, right?
Will AA pursue Alaskan?
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if AS wants out of the contract, DL can ask.
Of course AS can say "no" and then just fulfill their responsibilities in the contract.
Since DL is making it harder and harder for AS to say "no" to providing the passengers that DL wants to fill its int'l flights, AS might decide it is worth it to agree to terminate the relationship by giving DL what DL needs.
In the case of LAX, I have a feeling it has more to do with relocating back to the north side of the airport and allowing DL to negotiate other deals that allow DL to gain control of the gates in T6 that AS is currently using.
IN that case, DL gets what it wants while it is a lose little proposition for AS.
We'll see... but I would strongly get that AS decides to agree to an early termination of the contract with terms that are in DL's long-term interests - and might make it harder for AA and AS to pursue a deeper relationship at the same time.
Of course AS can say "no" and then just fulfill their responsibilities in the contract.
Since DL is making it harder and harder for AS to say "no" to providing the passengers that DL wants to fill its int'l flights, AS might decide it is worth it to agree to terminate the relationship by giving DL what DL needs.
In the case of LAX, I have a feeling it has more to do with relocating back to the north side of the airport and allowing DL to negotiate other deals that allow DL to gain control of the gates in T6 that AS is currently using.
IN that case, DL gets what it wants while it is a lose little proposition for AS.
We'll see... but I would strongly get that AS decides to agree to an early termination of the contract with terms that are in DL's long-term interests - and might make it harder for AA and AS to pursue a deeper relationship at the same time.
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and nowhere did I ever say that DL had a right to obtain gates if they weren't available.
I have said that all US airports have to provide equal access to all who choose to operate there.
btw, DL will be operating at DAL post Wright and DL is also aggressively expanding on the west coast including at SEA.
AA can pursue AS if they want but the chances of AA succeeding at it are slim to none based on AS' desires and because AA will have no choice but to try to make LAX work as their only west coast to Asia gateway while DL and UA will both have at least two gateways each.
I have said that all US airports have to provide equal access to all who choose to operate there.
btw, DL will be operating at DAL post Wright and DL is also aggressively expanding on the west coast including at SEA.
AA can pursue AS if they want but the chances of AA succeeding at it are slim to none based on AS' desires and because AA will have no choice but to try to make LAX work as their only west coast to Asia gateway while DL and UA will both have at least two gateways each.
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no, I am not.
You are trying to conflate two concepts, neither of which you understand while trying to throw mud.
doesn't really matter whether you get it or not; DL is going to grow on the west coast and if AS gets in DL's way because of AS' mgmt.'s unwillingness to think thru the implications of saying "no" to DL, they will have to live with it.
If AA can help them, they should.
further, DL will be flying from DAL; AA won't.
You are trying to conflate two concepts, neither of which you understand while trying to throw mud.
doesn't really matter whether you get it or not; DL is going to grow on the west coast and if AS gets in DL's way because of AS' mgmt.'s unwillingness to think thru the implications of saying "no" to DL, they will have to live with it.
If AA can help them, they should.
further, DL will be flying from DAL; AA won't.
AdAstraPerAspera
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And what does DAL or Wright have to do with a thread about AS?
Seems you've found yet another old saw to hem away at. Yippee.
Seems you've found yet another old saw to hem away at. Yippee.
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700 inserted the DAL comment just as E said it was related to the thread about UA's IAD hub on that forum.
given that AS is intentionally trying to put itself between AA and DL, what AA can do better if AS were given the chance to have a unique US carrier relationship is valid for discussion.
As I have noted several times, and to the great consternation of some AA supporters, AS has said they want to play the field and they have a long-term contractual relationship with DL.
based on that, would you like to just close the thread because, unless AS and DL decide to terminate their relationship, the answer is that AS is as close to AA as it is going to get at least with respect to its parallel relationship to DL? There is nothing to pursue that can't be pursued now.
so close the thread or no?
given that AS is intentionally trying to put itself between AA and DL, what AA can do better if AS were given the chance to have a unique US carrier relationship is valid for discussion.
As I have noted several times, and to the great consternation of some AA supporters, AS has said they want to play the field and they have a long-term contractual relationship with DL.
based on that, would you like to just close the thread because, unless AS and DL decide to terminate their relationship, the answer is that AS is as close to AA as it is going to get at least with respect to its parallel relationship to DL? There is nothing to pursue that can't be pursued now.
so close the thread or no?
I say close it, you contaminate every thread you post on....Someone could start a thread about flowers and clouds and you would turn it into a DL fest... I would be willing to bet that DL has someone in ATL monitoring your posts, and he/she must shutter everytime they see you post something about DL. But thats ok, it who you are, some on this board may think you are a dilusional weirdo, you may think your're not... When you post 50 times in one day, you may want to sit back and rethink what life is all about, you're probably are a nice person in real life, but behind the keyboard and screen you come across as a cuck-aroo.. Please get help, your fascination with DL is not healthy...
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you know the funny thing is that I know the same thing could be said about some of the same people who see themselves as trying to defend the board against the disease which they are convinced I bring to it.
for all the amateur psychologists that this board seems to have, you would think that a few of them could spend a few quiet moments and decipher the climate on the board and figure out why it actually exists.... but unbridled testosterone has a wonderful ability to suppress logic.
or we could keep going down the path of 1984 or hunger games....
which incidentally might be descriptive of where AS finds itself.
for all the amateur psychologists that this board seems to have, you would think that a few of them could spend a few quiet moments and decipher the climate on the board and figure out why it actually exists.... but unbridled testosterone has a wonderful ability to suppress logic.
or we could keep going down the path of 1984 or hunger games....
which incidentally might be descriptive of where AS finds itself.
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+1LD3 said:
i've stated something similar in the past. Since then the posting has only gotten worse.
Every airline forum, every thread, eventually turns into "... that's nice, but DL is better". Now there is nothing wrong wtih comparing or commenting on something airline A does relative to airline B, C, DL, etc., but WT eventually spins everything into DL is superior and worst of all, never admits any mistakes whatsover.
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then just tell us what AA can offer AS that is superior to what DL is doing or that overcomes the loss of revenue that AS is incurring because of the incursion of DL in AS' markets.
the topic of this thread is that AA can offer something to AS, isn't it?
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Or girl?eolesen said:
After reading WTs testosterone post.. I'm thinking they may be a Sheila full of estrogen?? XD
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