why the wait for the vote count?

[paul1]

http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/article.aspx?subjectid=49&articleid=20120808_45_E1_ULNSmr438479

 

[Just the Facts II]

Word is all Local 514 e-board members called to hall @ 9:30 this morning.

 

[Frank Szabo]

http://www.tulsaworl...E1_ULNSmr438479

I wondered that myself, since this was an electronic vote.

Dear me - I certainly hope there's no under-the-table dealing going on ...
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[TWU informer]

Little is consulting with Horton and Ream for intructions.

 

[BigMac]

Little is consulting with Horton and Ream for intructions.

On whether or not to have a re-vote. 03' deja vu.

 

[Frank Szabo]

On whether or not to have a re-vote. 03' deja vu.

... another 449 shares of worthless stock, byhaps?

 

[1AA]

Curious to see if it fails to pass by how many votes?
I hope that the 1600 or so guys that did not vote last time decided to vote.
If most of the guys vote at least we can say we all participated.
We should know in about an hour or so.

 

[Hopeful]

Local rep told us 1300 EST conference call....

 

[amt66]

... another 449 shares of worthless stock, byhaps?

It's worthless now but if you were smart enough to sell it at 40 chaching!!

 

[swamt]

Little is consulting with Horton and Ream for intructions.

The question here is, will he pull rank and sign a deal anyway? Didn't he do this in 2003 or was it in the 90's when he did it?

 

[Buster CRC]

The question here is, will he pull rank and sign a deal anyway? Didn't he do this in 2003 or was it in the 90's when he did it?

The fear we live with as TWU members

 

[Hopeful]

No, it passed in 2003...But he was on record having afterward stating he would have used his constitutional powers to sign off on the deal should it have been rejected

 

[AAOHNO]

The question here is, will he pull rank and sign a deal anyway? Didn't he do this in 2003 or was it in the 90's when he did it?

My guess is that Little will sign off on the LBO2 because he knows after the shrinking of Tulsa, the TWU days are numbered so why not reel in as much dues as still possible. Add to that that the Bankruptcy fees will be reimbursed with his ratification. Will he "Fight Like Hell?" My guess is NO.

 

[1AA]

The question here is, will he pull rank and sign a deal anyway? Didn't he do this in 2003 or was it in the 90's when he did it?

That is always an option that they can use. Knowing the TWU they will always find a way to sign off on agreements and then blame the membership. If The ATD Director signs off on it then it will generate more AMFA and Teamsters cards. Not to mention more animosity between the membership and the union leadership.
The 2003 agreement was a signing off but Little had his reasons to explain that a re vote was not warranted. So he used the 2003 results which passed. There was no signing off just the ratification process of the agreement. When one of your own locals takes the International to federal court to stop the ratification and the judge sides with the International we know there is a big problem with the structure of this union.

 

[TWU informer]

No, it passed in 2003...But he was on record having afterward stating he would have used his constitutional powers to sign off on the deal should it have been rejected

Actually what happened was the contract was ratified. Then James C. Little stated in a letter that 3200 members were not allowed to vote due to a "glitch" in the electronic voting system. This combined with the SERP diclosure on the SEC filing the same day that balloting ended caused Little to state that the only way to have a legitimate labor agreement was to conduct a complete revote using the mail ballot system.

He then met with some Polticians in Texas, obtained the "early opener" provision and the shares of stock, and then did indeed sign the agreement "without further ratification".