Who Will Survive?

[USA320Pilot]

PITbull:

I do not know how the PIT hub negotiations will end up and I now strongly believe they are tied to UA's exit financing. However, if the AGAA lowers the processing fee, I believe you will see the PIT hub have about 125 to 150 daily mainline flights and hundreds of Express and MAA flights.

Why? The short-haul connecting passenger needs to connect to longer-haul destinations. Thus, in the end, if the AGAA lowers its passenger processing fee to lets say $5.00 per passenger, instead of over $9.00 per passenger, then I believe you will see daily the mainline flight numbers indicated above.

Will the airline guarantee flights or jobs? Probably not because as Chris Chiames said to Jim McKay the company will not "make commitments that limit its flexibility in adjusting to the vagaries of the industry." From a business perspective, I understand the company's point.

Best regards,

Chip

 

[USA320Pilot]

PineyBob:

PineyBob said: "The reason I'm so hard on you Lav is that I just got off a flight where I had some of the best service from an F/A and actually the G/A was very nice and professional too. We had a significant weather delay and I had opportunity to have lengthy conversations with both. Amazing to me was their attitude, both seemed to be very positive and upbeat. Frankly I see more and more of this attitude lately."

Chip comments: Piney, in my opinion, the sentiment of this message board does not reflect the sentiment of the majority of the rank-and-file members. Most of the employees feel like the F/A & G/A you talked with today.

Best regards,

Chip

 

[LavMan]

Chip if you believe everything Dave and Chiames tells you, I have a bridge for sale in Brooklyn, deed and all, interested?

 

[LavMan]

Bob you just don't get it, I am PRO WORKER, so the employees of US Airways can live and survive and not let the robber barons get rich off of our blood, sweat and tears, and like AOG-N-IT said, when I am at work I give it my all.

But I will be damned if I will sit by and let the robber barons extort and exploit us.

 

[PITbull]

Employees will not show their low morale or anxiety to the passengers ever! We are professionals.

I live it every day and receive MOST of the complaints just from my group on the harrassment by the In-Flight department supervisors. Terminations are rampid and ANXIETY, and work related stress are as real as the sky and stars. Employees are depressed and medicated. That's a fact.

Chip, it annoys me to hear you speak that the employees are well adjusted to the constant violation of the agreements, prospects of displacing again and more furloughs. Sick pay penalties, disciplines for being sick, lines of flying eroding in PIT (see Novemeber ITD) and folks not knowing if they will be able to pay their bills month to month. Its NOT the concessions given, its the constant continued give of taking things NOT agreed and expenses now having to be bore on the employee just to keep the job.

Come out in the light and pull yourself from the cave. Just because the customer doesn't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And Chip, do not act so arrogant and dismiss light heartedly the plight of the mployee and pretend that the "depression" ONLY existed FOR YOUR PENSION, and all the rest is moot.

That attitude sickens me.

 

[RowUnderDCA]

Hey guys-

Does anybody think that the PIT 'negotiations' could also be effected by UAL's situation at IAD.

Follow me with this..... IAD is looking at major capital improvement projects in the future, which is likely to increase the operating expense there. Add to that the potential for ACA to strike out on its own and maybe fail, the revenue/cost equation for UAL might be looking particularly unattractive.

Could it be that U and UAL could together increase operations at PIT to provide connectivity in the Mid-Atlantic? If so, would that include increased UAL activity at PIT or just code share on U. Would shifting that activity from IAD to PIT really work or is it just in my head?

Let see, obviously UAL's FF base out of IAD is valuable. And it might be enough for UAL to retain IAD. But if the costs are too much at IAD, might it be beneficial to UAL to retain its presence on the east coast with increased connectivity through PIT. At the least, wouldn't UAL's website and res agents offering UAL customers east coast connections through PIT help activity there?

If U can execute an attractive agreement with PIT and PA (legally, of course) then they could extract even more value out of it by luring UAL customers to connect through there, an already operating effeciently designed airport with newly lowered costs.

Of course, as I have repeatedly said, I'm still concerned that the U/PIT/PA/PHL negotiations might be about stuff that's going to turn out to be counter to the Airline Dereg Act or counter to ACAA's and PHL's promises to be fair to all carriers using their airports.

 

[PITbull]

Bob,

I sent you an e-mail through aviation when you were in PIT, did you get it? I may not be able to send messages correctly through the PMs. I try but folks say they sometimes don't get it. Did you get it?

 

[PITbull]

Bob,
I was there and waited for you to come out of the Club. We as employees are not permitted in there.

I was there around 2:45 pm to 4:00 up in inflight.

You said you would check you e-mails and I sent it through the boards to your e-mail, cause you said you would check your e-mail.
Gee, I am not sure if my pms are getting through?

USA330flyboy,

Did you get my PM

 

[willyloman]

PITbull:

I do not know how the PIT hub negotiations will end up and I now strongly believe they are tied to UA's exit financing. However, if the AGAA lowers the processing fee, I believe you will see the PIT hub have about 125 to 150 daily mainline flights and hundreds of Express and MAA flights.

Why? The short-haul connecting passenger needs to connect to longer-haul destinations. Thus, in the end, if the AGAA lowers its passenger processing fee to lets say $5.00 per passenger, instead of over $9.00 per passenger, then I believe you will see daily the mainline flight numbers indicated above.

Will the airline guarantee flights or jobs? Probably not because as Chris Chiames said to Jim McKay the company will not "make commitments that limit its flexibility in adjusting to the vagaries of the industry." From a business perspective, I understand the company's point.

Best regards,

Chip

Chip: U will use larger RJs to connect to longer haul destinations. Have you looked at the range of some of these?

 

[LavMan]

AmericanEagle is going to start service with an RJ from FAY-LAX

 

[willyloman]

Chip, you just don't get it!

You have no creditibity anymore, for months you post about a RJ agreement that never came, you write an article for The Charlotte Observer which was full of false facts, you talk about the UCT or ICT which has not come to fruition. Then you become Dave's #1 fan and tell all the other unionized folks to accept concessions or quit, then when Dave takes away your pension you become his biggest critic and say the airline should fail and when all the other posters give you a taste of your own medicine and tell you to quit you run and hide and disapear off the boards for months and come back like you just drank from Dave's pitcher of koolaide.

Chip US has only $1.5 billion in unrestricted cash, how is Dave gonna go buy assets, and I don't want to hear that Bronner will finance it, because any money loaned has no more collateral for any such loan and our revenue stream cannot support it.

Are you a fan of the movie Cybil?
Because we never know which Chip is gonna post what!

Lavman: No, not a fan of the movie Cybill; rather our Chip is the Sibyll, the Roman god of prophecy. Unfortunately, while Sibyll was right about most things in ancient Roman times, he seems to have lost his touch of late.