What Us Wants

[N924PS]

NFS,

I hate to say this, but it is time for this place to go out of business.

Don't say it then. If you are an employee that no longer cares to work at USAirways, simply resign. If you are an employee, I'm sure the attitude that you convey via this Forum reflects your work ethic and probably your co-workers would not miss you either.

 

[stoopidute442]

I can pretty much tell you the $41 million from Utility is TOTAL ELIMINATION of that classification.

Agree.

Now, to all you that continue to say "Vote yes even if they will murder the junior 300 guys and pay the rest $5/hr with a swift kick to the nuts at the start and finish of each shift" ....what do you say utility should vote on this one?(if this is how it goes down)

 

[Pragmatic]

700UW,

If you and your friends keep up the hard work, this place will certainly go out of business. Your goals are highly commendable. :angry:

 

[F/AinDay]

Don't say it then. If you are an employee that no longer cares to work at USAirways, simply resign. If you are an employee, I'm sure the attitude that you convey via this Forum reflects your work ethic and probably your co-workers would not miss you either.

That doesn't make much sense why would anyone just resign? Especially if they have 15+ years invested in this company. There is a potential severance package to think about that should help get folks through until they find another position. Not to mention the unemployment benefits to consider.

According to the company, they want all of this completed by mid summer, so why not just ride this out?

As far as someones work ethic, just because they have an opinion that the company will be gone does not make them a bad employee, it's just an opinion, nothing more.

 

[MrAeroMan]

That doesn't make much since why would anyone just resign? There is a severance package to think about that should help get folks through until they find another position. Not to mention the unemployment benefits to consider.

According to the company, they want all of this completed by mid summer, so why not just ride this out?

There will be no severence in Chapter 7 so why not just look for work that makes you happy if it's more than you can stand at UAIR?

Actually the jobs being generated within the economy are perfect timing for those that are looking to get out of UAIR. If you're going to jump might as well jump when there's a lot of lifeboats around the ship.

 

[4merresrat]

Pilots (ALPA) $295 million
F/A (AFA) $116 million
Mechanics (IAM) $116 million
Fleet Service (IAM) $89 million
CSA (CWA) $76 million
Res (CWA) $46 million
Utility (IAM) $41 million
Stores (IAM) $17 million
TWU $4 million

Management $.02 cents

 

[700UW]

700UW,

If you and your friends keep up the hard work, this place will certainly go out of business. Your goals are highly commendable. :angry:

When I am at work I do the best job possible I do not let the outside pressures affect my performance.

Why should any utility person vote for any concessions that will eliminate their jobs? They are the lowest paid out of any organized group on the property.

And why would ANYONE trust this management when everyday they find new ways to violate contracts THEY AGREED TO?

And by the way 924PS, there is a lav truck with your name on it to dump your airplane on the turnaround, and dont forget the gloves to clean up any puke jobs.

 

[F/AinDay]

There will be no severence in Chapter 7 so why not just look for work that makes you happy if it's more than you can stand at UAIR?

Actually the jobs being generated within the economy are perfect timing for those that are looking to get out of UAIR. If you're going to jump might as well jump when there's a lot of lifeboats around the ship.

I suppose I'm looking at it differently. No one knows for sure exactly what's gonna happen. Chap. 7 or everyone votes in the concessions. It's a toss up. Personally, I would just wait until everything is signed/sealed and then make the decision to leave or stay if I had the option.

The bottom line is that the employees are frustrated and fed-up. Just because someone says they think the company should just go under does not make them a bad employee... Frustrated?... Absolutely!! Deep down they probably want the company to succeed, but by first trying other ways to bring the costs down before hitting up the the employees first with pay/benefit cuts.

 

[700UW]

And 924PS,

You might want to check out WN's F/A's web page and how they are willing to strike since they do not get paid to clean the planes.

And US won't be paying you either!

http://local556.twuatd.org/sos/Index.htm

 

[N924PS]

And 924PS,

You might want to check out WN's F/A's web page and how they are willing to strike since they do not get paid to clean the planes.

And US won't be paying you either!

http://local556.twuatd.org/sos/Index.htm

But they have already been cleaning the airplanes for 30 years. They don't have utility as such. Some concept. Everybody just does what it takes to get the job done-get the plane out of the gate on time and keep the customer happy.

With rare exception the best cleaning a USAirways plane gets is when it is cleaned at an out station by a contract service. Sad but true.

Years ago at SYR there was a Utility man who just about detailed the airplane during the short time it was at the gate. He even ran a belt loader up to the nose of the aircraft, elevated it and cleaned the cockpit windows. When his job was complete he came aboard, passed out his card, and asked if he could do anything else to make it better. An exceptional individual who took great pride in his work.

 

[700UW]

But they have already been cleaning the airplanes for 30 years. They don't have utility as such. Some concept. Everybody just does what it takes to get the job done-get the plane out of the gate on time and keep the customer happy.

They dont huh?

What do you call this then?

http://www.southwest.com/careers/mxairclean.html

Southwest Airlines Maintenance Department
Aircraft Appearance Technicians
For immediate consideration, please submit your resume using our Online Resume Builder. Please include Aircraft Appearance Technicians in the objective statement of your résumé.


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Job Position: Aircraft Appearance Technicians

Job Functions:

The position requires cleaning of interior and exterior of an aircraft, company vehicles and facilities, as required to maintain a clean and healthy aircraft to keep our passengers returning for travel on Southwest Airlines.
Cleaning interior of aircraft, including galleys and lavatories.
Wash or wax aircraft exterior, including landing gears, etc.
Replacement of aircraft carpet and seat covers (backs and bottoms).
Servicing of aircraft lavatories.
Driving tugs, fork lifts, and passenger vehicles.
Exposed to fumes from chemicals, noise from aircraft engines and APUs, and danger around aircraft standing and lifting containers up to 50 pounds.

 

[PropPiedmont]

Southwest does it.

Piedmont does it.

 

[Rico]

Pah-lease, there is a ton of things that US crews could give on without too much pain...

IF real canges are made to the work rules to allow real productivity out of the US crews, then you could see lot's of cost savings associated with the new schedules...

Off the top of my head, I can think of one good one...

Really, is there any need for more than one hotel in a city...? Long overnights :huh: How about you fly, go to bed, fly some more, then go home. If you want to spend a long time in Manhattan, then non-rev in on your own time.

Express crews do not have "long" stay hotels, but then we usually average 12hr overnights and then it is back to flying. Why should US crews have such schedule "fluff" that they require such long layovers anyways.

Always hated getting stuck in one of "your" hotels anyways (IE: BWI) Give me a Nice, Cheap, Quiet, and Clean room in a Hampton or Holiday Inn Express (with free breakfast) over the overpriced places that tend to be the mainline norm...(wow, that was a great 9$ breakfast) :blink:

It is obvious that rest requirements and duty limits from long haul flying is a different matter altogether. But most of US flying is still domestic short haul, so enough with the "long" overnights and the "Long Stay" hotels...

 

[N617P]

So if we loose utility does this mean the end of 700UW's posts???

 

[cltbay1homie]

So if we loose utility does this mean the end of 700UW's posts???

That's correct...but it also means the end of all unions at U....they will outsourse all work..even the flying jobs...J.O. is chomping at bit for this to happen. Just remember..if all the little fish in the sea are gone...guess what...the larger ones are next on the agenda..thats why ALPA will not survive..they give up their young..to save the seniority. May God have mercy on their soles.