"we Have Been Working With..."

[Decision 2004]

What specifically does it mean to "work with Senior Management"?

Did we give away something more?

Did we just prove RIF's were not needed?

Did we just lick the boot until they capitiulated?

What does this really mean, anyway?

Does the TWU run AA now, or is there still a President and CEO running our company?

Press Release - Thursday, October 21, 2004 at 15:33
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Contact: James C. Little
817-282-2544

Transport Workers Union – Statement Regarding AMR Third Quarter Results

Hurst, TX (October 20, 2004) – The Transport Workers Union of America (TWUA) issued the following statement today in response to American Airlines third Quarter financial results:

“It is certainly disappointing on the backdrop of the major year over year concessions given by the labor unions in 2003. The Company is still experiencing substantial losses in revenue due to the weak yields that are affecting the entire industry as a result of the adverse weather that impacted the Caribbean and the Florida Stations combined with the high fuel costs,â€￾ said James C. Little, Director Air Transport Division.

“In order to mitigate American Airlines decision to ground portions of the fleets impact on our members, we (TWU) have been working with Senior Management and as a result, we have been successful in reducing the number of our members being impacted by the reductions in the workforce. In addition, meetings have also been scheduled next with a Committee of our M&R Local Presidents and Senior Operating Management,â€￾ Little stated.


“We are pleased, however, that the Company has made a significant effort to enroll our members in discussions in order to identify and eliminate inefficiency,â€￾ said Gary Yingst, AA System Coordinator and International Vice President.

The Transport Workers Union of America represents seven collective bargaining agreements covering 29,000 members at American Airlines.

 

[The Dissident]

IT MEANS WERE GONNA GET BUTT RAPED PRETTY HARD!!!!!!!

 

[Decision 2004]

I hear the TWU Local 530 (MCI) President was to be laid-off so now he has been given a job at the TWU-ATD Office.


Report: AMR plans furloughs
By CBS MarketWatch
Last Update: 9:02 PM ET Oct. 22, 2004
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SAN FRANCISCO (CBS.MW) -- AMR Corp. plans to furlough as many as 1,100 employees in Kansas City and St. Louis, according to a published report late Friday.

The company, parent of American Airlines, will furlough as many as 650 maintenance workers in Kansas City, and up to 450 pilots, beginning next month, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing an internal company memo.

The furloughs are part of the AMR's efforts to cut costs, the Journal said on its Web site.

Furloughed employees in the airline industry can be called back if conditions improve, the Journal said.

AMR on Wednesday said it plans to cut an unspecified number of jobs, that it will reduce U.S. capacity by 5 percent, and that it will consolidate one of its Dallas reservation offices.

The company reported a third-quarter loss of $214 million, or $1.33 a share. In the same quarter a year earlier, it posted a profit of $1 million. See full story.

AMR (AMR: news, chart, profile) fell 12 cents to $6.52 on Friday

 

[AMFAMAN]

“In order to mitigate American Airlines decision to ground portions of the fleets

[post="193851"][/post]​

I thought it was just 1 fleet type(some 80's), is there something we should know?

 

[Decision 2004]

TWA MD 80's
TWA 757's

Air Bus A-300's

 

[FWAAA]

TWA MD 80's
TWA 757's

Air Bus A-300's

[post="193904"][/post]​

On Wednesday, Arpey and Beer said that in the first quarter, 11 MD-80s and one 757 would be grounded and 3 MD-80s would not be returned to service as orginally planned, for a total of 15 narrowbodies.

They didn't say anything about grounding the A300s.

 

[Decision 2004]

On Wednesday, Arpey and Beer said that in the first quarter, 11 MD-80s and one 757 would be grounded and 3 MD-80s would not be returned to service as orginally planned, for a total of 15 narrowbodies.

They didn't say anything about grounding the A300s.

[post="193906"][/post]​

Hmmm,

Well, I know what I look at everyday outside the Boeing Hangar and Hangar 6, there are already four of them grounded in Tulsa.

Up to twelve soon.

Airworthiness Directive for Wing Root Cracks. $1 Million per A/C repair I hear.

Just because you didn't hear it from them, doesn't mean it isn't happening.

 

[AMFAMAN]

And of course the 767-200ers are for sale.....

 

[Drippy Quill]

We're dooooomed!!!!!...what shall I do? Sell the farm Martha!!!!! It's pretty obvious by your postings that those non-TWAers have never faced adversity such as a furlough. How many years have you furloughed Dave? Buck? Hackett? Anyone?...

Furloughs, though uncomfortable for all, have been a way of life at MCI, so we go on vacation, give you some OT for the holidays, and all is well...

Just remember...it took fuel, not outsourcing, to put us on the street. And your protectionary clause that the TWU fought for might have saved your unskilled butt....peace, love, dope, and your momma....hahaha!!!

 

[Decision 2004]

Just remember...it took fuel, not outsourcing, to put us on the street. And your protectionary clause that the TWU fought for might have saved your unskilled butt....peace, love, dope, and your momma....hahaha!!!

[post="194011"][/post]​

Oh really? I thought it was lack of managment shared sacrifice two months ago.

You better go investigate the outsourced work percentage on an independent basis before you go doubting that bringing outsourced work back in would not have saved your job.

The TWU and apparently yourself have nothing but the Form 41 to determine outsource percentages from AA, yet the same Form 41 is never audited, never subjected to scrutiny for truth. In fact, Form 41 is an old requirement from the Civil Aeronautics Board which was eliminated along with deregulation in 1978, and it is a well known fact amongst Industry Analyst that this Form should never be considered worthy of anything more than antiquated waste of paper that the Federal Government never removed with the Governing Body.

I watch everyday, as enough American Airlines' Maintenace work to keep yourself and ALL of your fellow workers at MCI employed is loaded into trucks in Tulsa headed for third party maintenance providers. Nordam, is on of the fastest growing companies in the Tulsa area. Do I really have to tell where most of their work comes from? OK, how about American Airlines!

Hell dude, even the CFM-56 Engine work is going to be outsource. AA Mechanics will break the engine into three modules and out the door they will go, all overhual to be done by thrid party. Then the three modules come back, and lucky us, we get to put the three modules back together, balance and test the engine. And they call that "bringing work in-house" after it was stolen from your base.

Tulsa Wharehouse is going to be reduced by 1/3 at least because all the rotables that get outsourced no longer need to come to Tulsa first, they can just R.O. them out from DFW.

Yeah, keep on thinking fuel got you Drippy. Keep on trusting everything the TWU tells you. Keep on thinking your going on a simple short vacation to give us some overtime for the Holidays. You will eventually wake up and see how they have shafted, used, lied, manipulated, and broken everything in the book that defines a credible and worthy organization.

By the way, you didn't happen to go ask them about the term "attrition" did you? You know the word they used to talk about how the workforce at MCI would get to 700 in a few years? Go ahead, don't be afraid, go ask and report back with the list of who and what is to blame for that lie.


at•tri•tion

Pronunciation: (u-trish'un), [key]
—n.


AA/TWU Definition
1- The word used by AA and the TWU to describe a worker that will be removed his/her current work position within a twelve month period. Sometimes this means removed from OSM shop early, sometimes it means out to the street. Or could mean involuntary reassignment to OSM shop and loss of License Premium pay.

The rest of World Dictionary

2. a gradual reduction in work force without firing of personnel, as when workers resign or retire and are not replaced.

 

[Hopeful]

We're dooooomed!!!!!...what shall I do? Sell the farm Martha!!!!! It's pretty obvious by your postings that those non-TWAers have never faced adversity such as a furlough. How many years have you furloughed Dave? Buck? Hackett? Anyone?...

Furloughs, though uncomfortable for all, have been a way of life at MCI, so we go on vacation, give you some OT for the holidays, and all is well...

Just remember...it took fuel, not outsourcing, to put us on the street. And your protectionary clause that the TWU fought for might have saved your unskilled butt....peace, love, dope, and your momma....hahaha!!!

[post="194011"][/post]​

More than just fuel. Aside from fuel, the legacy carriers blame labor costs. These two combined are what separates them from the low cost carriers. I don't like to see anyone laid off. Personally no one should work overtime if AA finds the need to cut heads.

 

[Hackman]

We're dooooomed!!!!!...what shall I do? Sell the farm Martha!!!!! It's pretty obvious by your postings that those non-TWAers have never faced adversity such as a furlough. How many years have you furloughed Dave? Buck? Hackett? Anyone?...

Furloughs, though uncomfortable for all, have been a way of life at MCI, so we go on vacation, give you some OT for the holidays, and all is well...

Just remember...it took fuel, not outsourcing, to put us on the street. And your protectionary clause that the TWU fought for might have saved your unskilled butt....peace, love, dope, and your momma....hahaha!!!

[post="194011"][/post]​

Yeah, it looks like your twu did not save your maintenance base drippy. Doomed as you call it. Do you have recall rights to TWA? Those years of iam concessions did save your job, right? Are you blaming fuel for the failure of TWA also? Tell us what the years of iam concessions did for your retirement, since many of the TWA employees I have met are still working well into their 60's and 70's. Looks to me like giving in to every management whim and desire did not do much for the so called "golden years" for TWA employees.

Yes, furloughs are a way of life in the airline industry, never gut the contract to prevent them, it does not work. The twu spouted off how the industry leading concessions they gave us would save jobs and minimize layoffs. We have 3000 on the street with thousands more to come, and no contract worth speaking about. Please tell me again what was saved.

Here is some quotes from a twu mailout which they hammer on AMFA for having layoffs, outsourcing, and closed bases, simply because they refuse concessions and have fought hard for their members.



TWU kept American Airlines out of bankruptcy.

Protecting our jobs and our furtures

American Airlines:

12,000 jobs saved across the system including bases, line stations, and title 2.

Three maintenance bases kept open.

Reduced outsourcing in 2003 while other major carriers increasing outsourcing.

Stabilized company's financial position-returning American to a small profit.

Pension fully preserved-currently leading the industry,


Quite a list of lies.....

 

[local 12 proud]

no sympathy here for drippy and the other twu bootlickers, HEY DRIPPY ENJOY YOUR EXTENDED VACATION! oh yea what is your senority date at AA?

 

[will fix for food]

Airworthiness Directive for Wing Root Cracks. $1 Million per A/C repair I hear.

[post="193912"][/post]​

Actually,1 million seems pretty cheap for a plane that size with it's revenue potential...

 

[Buck]

Actually,1 million seems pretty cheap for a plane that size with it's revenue potential...

[post="194086"][/post]​

I believe that Fuel Burn has something to do with the A-300 being set down?