US to launch Express flights CLT-YOW

SOA2 said:
I wouldn't get too excited about this flight. It's priced at much more than double a one-connection flight. Also, it leaves CLT late at night and leaves YOW early in the morning. Most passengers will be Canadians connecting to points south in CLT. The flights that I checked had not sold any seats.

No announcement has been made about this flight here in Charlotte (at least none that I can find.) Not much of a marketing push.
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How big of a market is CLT-YOW? With the times mentioned, it sounds more like they're using it for Caribbean/Mexico/Florida connections as an alternative to a PHL conx.
 
wings396 said:
As far as I know Empire & Piedimont operated the F-28 into YOW. and that was mianline.
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US operated bigger airplanes than the F28 into YOW, but that was then and this is now. All I know is that FlightStats shows no U.S. carriers operating anything larger than RJ's currently. AC and WestJet - that's a different story but they're not U.S. carriers.

Jim
 
BoeingBoy said:
US operated bigger airplanes than the F28 into YOW, but that was then and this is now. All I know is that FlightStats shows no U.S. carriers operating anything larger than RJ's currently. AC and WestJet - that's a different story but they're not U.S. carriers.

Jim
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I think they can pick up some YOW-CLT-LAS customers. The only way before was to go through PHL and we all know what kind of nightmare it can be going from the F gates to B or C.
YOW - DCA makes a lot of sense if you want two capital cities to be connected. Ottawa is a relatively small city. 800,000 residents. If the service is good.....oh yea.....us airways....well if the tickets are cheap they should be able to give some away.
 
BoeingBoy said:
Apparently AC doesn't see that much traffic potential - 2 CRJ's a day each way is all they offer.

Jim
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Seeing as how DCA is slot restricted, its difficult to determine how many flights AC would ideally like to run between the two cities. I'm sure the market is being somewhat suppressed by high fares at the moment since demand is being artificially limited. US apparently sees potential, as DCA-YOW was one of the markets that US proposed had the DL/US slot transaction been completed. To note, AC and UA also both fly IAD-YOW 3x times daily, all with CRJ/ERJs.



CLT-YOW should do quite well; since DL no longer flies ATL-YOW, CLT will be the most logical transit point for most SE/Caribbean traffic.
 
cltflyer1 said:
no Us carrier can fly mainline jets into YOW i believe their is a regulation against it.
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I based my statement on this post. Not using mainline A/C into YOW, is a different thing than not being permitted to do so. If this is indeed true, it is a bunch of BS. You can fly an Express A/C here, but not a mainline one with maybe 10-20 more seats. This topic is getting old, and off track at this point already.
 
wings396 said:
I based my statement on this post. Not using mainline A/C into YOW, is a different thing than not being permitted to do so. If this is indeed true, it is a bunch of BS. You can fly an Express A/C here, but not a mainline one with maybe 10-20 more seats. This topic is getting old, and off track at this point already.
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I am sure the bean counters are thinking that you could fill a RJ and make money or fly a mainline a/c at 2/3 full and not make any.
Then at least the RJ will be supplying new customers to a mainline connection. Win Win for all.
 
Mainline A/C mean Mainline jobs, and that alone scares the heck out of the bean counters. At times, I think that the company avoids adding Mainline flying as much as they can in favor of Express. That is why I made the comments that I did to begin with. Just take a look back at how much flying, and how many jobs at this Airline have been lost to the Express operators. We even have several small stations that went Express, only to reinstate Mainline flying at a later time utilizing Express employees. In my opinion the term "Express" means nothing more than a way to screw mainline employees out of a decent wage. At one time an Express A/C meant a 30 seat
turboprop, not a full sized jet A/C that is the size of an F-28 or F-100.
 
Hope777 said:
Funny USAirways.com does not show the EMB-175, only the 170.
http://www.usairways.com/en-US/aboutus/par...leet/fleet.html

As far as mainline into YOW, we flew that route for years from JFK.
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Are you commenting on how stupid the website is, or actually doubting the existence of USX E175s? There are 38, flown by Republic.

Aircraft operated as US Airways Express as of February 2010 [2]:

Aircraft Pax Total Operated

Bombardier CRJ200 50 113 Air Wisconsin, Mesa Airlines, PSA Airlines
Bombardier CRJ700 70 14 PSA Airlines
Bombardier CRJ900 86 38 Mesa Airlines
Bombardier DH81 37 33 Piedmont Airlines
Bombardier DH82 37 6 Mesa Airlines
Bombardier DH83 50 11 Piedmont Airlines
Embraer ERJ 145 50 12 Chautauqua Airlines, Trans States Airlines
Embraer E-170 76 20 Republic Airlines
Embraer E-175 86 38 Republic Airlines
Saab 340B 34 10 Colgan Air

US Airways Express fleet total: 329
US Airways mainline fleet total: 347

US Airways Express total daily flights: 1,818
US Airways mainline total daily flights: 1,242
 
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