US Airways's pilots are paid less than pilots at other airlines

[Diamondbacks2004]

Low Cost Model Includes High Pay

US Airways's pilots are paid less than pilots at other airlines.

Hourly pay for airline captains

$186 Southwest (Boeing 737's)
$161 American (Boeing 737's)
$157 Frontier (Airbus 318 & 319)
$153 Alaska (Boeing 737's), AirTran (Boeing 737's)
$149 Delta (Boeing 737's)
$144 Continental (Boeing 737's)
$137 Northwest (Airbus 319 & 320)
$136 JetBlue (Airbus 320)
$131 United (Airbus 319 & 320 and Boeing 737's)
$125 US Airways (Airbus 319, 320 & 321 and Boeing 737's)

Pilots with 12 years of experience, flying Boeing 737's or Airbus 320's.

 

[700UW]

US Airways East Pilots have never met a concession they did not like.

 

[fatherabraham]

Situation far bleaker than just dollars. You may minimize your point on this board. Probably get attacked for making too much. Hope you all see an upswing of this pendulum.

FA

 

[etops1]

that's sick that sw makes more than everybody else. there day will come.

 

[Diamondbacks2004]

Read an article from NYT

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/15/business...gin&oref=slogin

 

[BoeingBoy]

that's sick that sw makes more than everybody else. there day will come.

It illustrates the difference between an efficient operation and a cheap operation - despite their industry leading wages, their CASM ex-fuel is still lower than everyone on that list except Jetblue and Frontier.

Jim

 

[700UW]

Their day will not come.

They are the only airline to make a profit and pay a dividend for over 30 years.

There employees are the highest paid and the highest % of unionzed worked.

They have kicked US' butt out of CA and BWI.

They know how to run an airline, they have tons of planes coming and are the most succesful airline.

Posters on this board who say their day is coming, knows nothing about WN and why they are so succesful.

 

[ilg30/7]

12 years experience?

You know what 12 years experience gets you as a US East pilot?

Laid off.

I'm surprised the figure wasn't $0.00

 

[FWAAA]

Their day will not come.

Posters on this board who say their day is coming, knows nothing about WN and why they are so succesful.

I agree. It's simply amazing how little their total employment has grown the last 3-4 years despite adding dozens of airplanes. And each new airplane lowers the overhead portion of CASM just that much further. WN has figured out better than most how to extract maximum work from each person on the payroll.

 

[john john]

Think people! NO RJ'S

 

[robbedagain]

I agree with you 700 that SW has a very successful model rolling for them. I think what helps them out as well is the fact that they dont fly any rjs.

 

[luvn737s]

Their day will not come.

They are the only airline to make a profit and pay a dividend for over 30 years.

There employees are the highest paid and the highest % of unionzed worked.

They have kicked US' butt out of CA and BWI.

They know how to run an airline, they have tons of planes coming and are the most succesful airline.

Posters on this board who say their day is coming, knows nothing about WN and why they are so succesful.

Typical of 700's rearview mirror thinking.

WN has never faced an entire airline industry with costs so close to theirs. This is a totally foreign environment for them, so it is quite possible their day will come.

 

[Freighterguynow]

Low Cost Model Includes High Pay

US Airways's pilots are paid less than pilots at other airlines.


Maybe voting "NO" for a change ????

 

[700UW]

WN has made a profit for over 30 years straight, our costs are no where near theirs.

WN made money during 9/11 and US has been in chapter 11 twice.

WN has a strong management team who treats their employees with respect.

WN has kicked US out of CA and BWI.

Their track record speaks for itself.

You are the one who thinks backwards.

 

[ab320driver]

WN has made a profit for over 30 years straight, our costs are no where near theirs.

WN made money during 9/11 and US has been in chapter 11 twice.

WN has a strong management team who treats their employees with respect.

WN has kicked US out of CA and BWI.

Their track record speaks for itself.

You are the one who thinks backwards.

All examples of the previous poster's "rear view mirror" thinking. The landscape for WN has changed dramatically in the past two years. The fuel hedging profits are shrinking, and in the case of US, we're STARTING to get our bearings. Costs are not the whole story. US yields are slowly improving, and there is enough money in the bank to put up a meaningful fight for markets. The current US Management team, while not perfect, is solid. The integration is progressing at a reasonable pace, and the first quarter profit, or near profit, is promising. Track records are interesting to look back on, but have little relevance to the current situation, or the future. The CA and BWI debacles are many years ago in a very different time. The trend here at US is certainly in the right direction!