Us Airways Is A Viable Airline With A Plan

[UseYourHead]

I have read bits and pieces from numerous posters that GoFares are not working, US Airways has no plan, that he plan is not working and so on.

The plan to transform US Airways is working, point-to-point flying is on the increase, Island flying is on the increase, etc.

Fuel on the other hand is killing us...if not for fuel we would be posting a nice profit. SWA has some great hedges in place, while we are not able to participate due to financial considerations. Cash is king right now for us and we must get through this bk before we can and will again prosper.

We (as all the lagacy airlines) must pull together to help get through these times, and many (most) of us in fact are doing just that. These boards are very negative, there are many positive, realistic, and loyal employees out there.

Keep up the great work, our customers notice each and everytime you meet and exceed their expectations!

 

[livingontheedge]

I agree 100%! I have great pride in my work and I absolutely want this company to survive and survive with me still on board.....however, a 50% pay cut is just not something that I could survive, and I don't think that many employees could, as much as we would like to continue our careers with USAirways.

 

[WestCoastGuy]

Livin.....many people believe exactly as you that we would like to see the company survive and prosper. But there are limits at which most of us will allow ourselves to be lowered. I, for one, absolutely refuse to break my back so that the exec's in this disfunctional family of a company, can continue to make the millions they currently do. It's outragous when a company is in such dire straits, to see the likes off Glass, Crellin et al. having money thrown at them right and left, while those who have given years of work to this company, are now trying to figure out ways to put food on their tables and clothing on the childrens back. You give me 4% pay raise and Ill gladly give you a 5% pay cut in return. After all, that's only fair...

 

[UseYourHead]

WestCoastGuy,

It is too bad that all of our unions (Mine included/ALPA) did not get going months ago, as the pain would have been considerably less.

I hope we can retain great folks like you, and meet the cost target that we must. I can tell your great at what you do, a wonderful assest for the airline and a great customer appeal PR guy!

Livin.....many people believe exactly as you that we would like to see the company survive and prosper. But there are limits at which most of us will allow ourselves to be lowered. I, for one, absolutely refuse to break my back so that the exec's in this disfunctional family of a company, can continue to make the millions they currently do. It's outragous when a company is in such dire straits, to see the likes off Glass, Crellin et al. having money thrown at them right and left, while those who have given years of work to this company, are now trying to figure out ways to put food on their tables and clothing on the childrens back. You give me 4% pay raise and Ill gladly give you a 5% pay cut in return. After all, that's only fair...

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[WestCoastGuy]

UseYourHead......
Just keep your head in the clouds and everything will be nice and rosey. Enjoy the "new world order" of things in this company. Have no concern for those around you. Keep giving till you're working for free. I have more self respect, but thats just my crazy attitude.... B)

 

[PITbull]

UYH,

If you would have conceded in the earlier proposals.. I suspect the company would have come for more. I do suspect they will violate some of your language to get more from you, or your MEC will continue to just give them relief.

After all, this is our third time in 2 years with two BK.

Other airline legacies have not even experienced one BK. They are ALL much higher paid than we, even United who is still in BK. They haven't terminated their pensions yet.

Our quarter was worse then theirs, and they have the same fuel problem we do, along with all the other legacies who did better than us.

For example, CO f/as are topped out at $53. Delta is mostly non-union and with the f/as pay cuts they are still at $49.

This management (24 of them) made sure they funded their defined contributions pensions during this past year, and they accept these high salaires as if we are not going off the cliff. They have collected $23 million dollars in salary, expenses, pension credits during the 12 months before the filing. The U BOD did not even think to adjust their contracts during that critical time period. Yes, they have recently conceded to reduce their pension contribution by 25%, but do the calculations...its still staggering when the rest of the rank and file is having theirs terminated.

Its like the forest is on fire...and only the tops of the trees have water thrown on them and have been saved...the bottom of the forest is still ablaze.

I have come to the conclusion that U will not emerge from bk for a very long time..maybe years; if we even last over the next 3 months. I wouldn't have thought this 3 months ago, but with these kinds of losses from one quarter showing a $34 million profit and the next...$232 million loss....

Something doesn't click here.

 

[BostonTerrier]

UYH,

It's good to bring optimism to this board. Hopefully the company will somehow chart a course to keep this company alive; as one of the analysts said regarding US Airways: if the Red Sox could win the Series, anything could happen.

But like many others, some of us have already chosen to vote with our feet and not on a ballot. I know that I've been priced out of my position, and will soon leave. I have no other choice. It was a great job and I had a blast. But bills have to be paid. And I have to plan for a secure and comfortable retirement.

Should a T/A be handed down for a vote while I am still employed here, I will abstain from voting. Better for those that still have a vested interest in this company to make such a decision.

To those that stay and head into the unknown, all the best.

BT

 

[UseYourHead]

BT,

Good luck to you, and thanks for all the great years of service!

UYH,

It's good to bring optimism to this board. Hopefully the company will somehow chart a course to keep this company alive; as one of the analysts said regarding US Airways: if the Red Sox could win the Series, anything could happen.

But like many others, some of us have already chosen to vote with our feet and not on a ballot. I know that I've been priced out of my position, and will soon leave. I have no other choice. It was a great job and I had a blast. But bills have to be paid. And I have to plan for a secure and comfortable retirement.

Should a T/A be handed down for a vote while I am still employed here, I will abstain from voting. Better for those that still have a vested interest in this company to make such a decision.

To those that stay and head into the unknown, all the best.

BT

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[700UW]

The first thing they need to do is learn to treat the employees with respect something Glass and Associates know nothing about.

Second they need a real plan, they have failed before, what is to say they will succede when their track record speaks for itself.

They have declared war on the employees and not the competition, unless there is a major house cleaning up top this place will die.

 

[Phantom Fixer]

UYH,

If you would have conceded in the earlier proposals.. I suspect the company would have come for more. I do suspect they will violate some of your language to get more from you, or your MEC will continue to just give them relief.

And they may still. After all, this is our third time in 2 years with two BK.

Other airline legacies have not even experienced one BK. They are ALL much higher paid than we, even United who is still in BK. They haven't terminated their pensions yet.

Our quarter was worse then theirs, and they have the same fuel problem we do, along with all the other legacies who did better than us.

For example, CO f/as are topped out at $53. Delta is mostly non-union and with the f/as pay cuts they are still at $49.

This management (24 of them) made sure they funded their defined contributions pensions during this past year, and they accept these high salaires as if we are not going off the cliff. They have collected $23 million dollars in salary, expenses, pension credits during the 12 months before the filing. Yes, they have recently conceded to reduce their pension contribution by 25%, but do the calculations...its still staggering when the rest of the rank and file is having theirs terminated.

Its like the forest is on fire...and only the tops of the trees have water thrown on them and have been saved...the bottom of the forest is still ablaze.

I have come to the conclusion that U will not emerge from bk for a very long time..maybe years; if we even last over the next 3 months. I wouldn't have thought this 3 months ago, but with these kinds of losses from one quarter showing a $34 million profit and the next...$232 million loss....

Something doesn't click here.

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Does any of these facts get presented in court??...and if so? What is judge Mitchell's reaction to it?

I think too much time is being spent on the hardships befalling the union members...and too little time being spent on the discrepancies of what we provide..versus the results the overly paid CCY types net.

I think the focus at judgement time is all too often out of kilter..time to change the approach IMHO.

 

[PITbull]

Phantom,

AFA knew the total compensation of the execs at the hearing, but in a 1113e motion, "new discovery", can not be presented or argued.

However, I believe in an 1113c, it can be presented.

Its upsetting, because at a time when the company started to approach labor last christmas about more concessions, the BOD didn't think to adjust these execs contracts...again, focus was on the "rank and file" with an ask of an additional $850 million. On Feb. 6, AFA MEC was presented with a slide presentation by Siegel and company at CCY on the dire necessity of this $1.5 billion additional cost savings and $850 million coming from labor. Pension was ON the table for labor back then.

Why did the board fund these exec pensions and not make the adjustments? That's the big problem I have with this. Why is it acceptable to give 24 execs in this company a combined $23 million the last 12 months?

 

[UseYourHead]

PitBull (here we go again),

The agreements would have been less painful by all groups if done months ago, that is a simple matter of record at this point...YOU WERE WOEFULLY WRONG, and have done your membership a great injustice...shame on you.

Would/will the company come back for more? If they continue losing money, that could happen...DUH, or go out-a-business, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.

It is not just US Airways PitBull, everyone is losing their butt. And CO FA's are about to go to the table...oh ya, they never had all the expensive and wasteful contract items that US Airways FAs have had for years. That is getting dealt with now...finally.

Of course you were against "parity" with other airlines, now weren't you PB, would have rather have gone on strike...that was pathetic. Gee, we only got a 32% raise in two years from that little blunder, I guess we never should have listened those pescky ALPA lawyers and financial advisors...I know the darkside was very against hat idea too...they even claimed up to the day of the raise that we would take a 20% paycut...lets see thats only 52% wrong...I guess they (you) are about that wrong this time too.

Lastly, you don't believe our loss is real? That would be a...crime to put out false info with a public company, yep the SEC would be very interested in this...

You are grasping at straws just trying to find blame, shame...or maybe smoking something.

Have you considered the EAP thread here yesterday?

I wouldn't have thought this 3 months ago, but with these kinds of losses from one quarter showing a $34 million profit and the next...$232 million loss....
Something doesn't click here.

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[700UW]

Pitbull is not on the AFA negotiating committee, so how could she do the membership wrong?

Just put your company tie on all ready, you are begining to sound like a management wannabe.

Lets Brucey send all your flying to Mesa and see how you feel then.

 

[UseYourHead]

PitBull,

Who cares, it is legal, no one broke the law, get a management job if you want in on it.

Is it fair? No, but life isn't fair...now get your big belly up to the table and start negotiating, instead of playing the blame game...you are costing your fellow FAs time and money.

When are you gana learn, geeez!

Phantom,

AFA knew the total compensation of the execs at the hearing, but in a 1113e motion, "new discovery", can not be presented or argued.

However, I believe in an 1113c, it can be presented.

Its upsetting, because at a time when the company started to approach labor last christmas about more concessions, the BOD didn't think to adjust these execs contracts...again, focus was on the "rank and file" with an ask of an additional $850 million. On Feb. 6, AFA MEC was presented with a slide presentation by Siegel and company at CCY on the dire necessity of this $1.5 billion additional cost savings and $850 million coming from labor. Pension was ON the table for labor back then.

Why did the board fund these exec pensions and not make the adjustments? That's the big problem I have with this. Why is it acceptable to give 24 execs in this company a combined $23 million the last 12 months?

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[UseYourHead]

She is one of a short-list that directs the negotiating committee, and is responsible for the lions share of public nonsense coming from the AFA.

Pitbull is not on the AFA negotiating committee, so how could she do the membership wrong?

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