Unions Oppose Executive Incentive Plan At Usair

[hp_fa]

The executives deserve compensation for their hard work and dedication during this transitional period. You can't operate an airline without executives, especially when you are completing a merger. The unions should concentrate on their own internal matters.

[post="300443"][/post]​

We are. It's called our pay and benefits. It also seems like the executives are trying to "get theirs" while telling us there is none to be had for us. Remember, we had an amenable contract, the company wanted to open early to get our situation resolved. Money was available under the ATSB plan. Now the company doesn't want to talk to us and yet you guys are getting yours.

Trust us, we are taking care of business.

 

[BoeingBoy]

You can't operate an airline without executives, especially when you are completing a merger.

[post="300443"][/post]​

How 'bout a little experiment.....

Next week the executives stay home. The following week the rest of the employees stay home. Whichever week the airline operates better, the group that worked that week gets the $12 million.

How 'bout it Zeus, Truth, etc - care to try it and see who's really necessary for the operation of an airline?

Jim

 

[Harry Callahan]

How 'bout a little experiment.....

Next week the executives stay home. The following week the rest of the employees stay home. Whichever week the airline operates better, the group that worked that week gets the $12 million.

How 'bout it Zeus, Truth, etc - care to try it and see who's really necessary for the operation of an airline?

Jim

[post="300480"][/post]​

Jim:
I like it I like it.

 

[NeedForSpeed]

How 'bout a little experiment.....

Next week the executives stay home. The following week the rest of the employees stay home. Whichever week the airline operates better, the group that worked that week gets the $12 million.

How 'bout it Zeus, Truth, etc - care to try it and see who's really necessary for the operation of an airline?

Jim

[post="300480"][/post]​

Now THIS is probably the BEST opine I have seen on these boards!!!

KUDOS Jim!!

 

[BottomFeeder]

The executives deserve compensation for their hard work and dedication during this transitional period. You can't operate an airline without executives, especially when you are completing a merger. The unions should concentrate on their own internal matters.

[post="300443"][/post]​

Zeus,

Yes, you too can be outsourced.

Cheers

 

[hp_fa]

How 'bout a little experiment.....

Next week the executives stay home. The following week the rest of the employees stay home. Whichever week the airline operates better, the group that worked that week gets the $12 million.

How 'bout it Zeus, Truth, etc - care to try it and see who's really necessary for the operation of an airline?

Jim

[post="300480"][/post]​

Good one Jim.

 

[Art at ISP]

Jim,

You took the words right out of my mouth.

Great post!!!

Zeus,

HP executives are much more capable of running this company than you guys ever were, so in theory, on Day 1, you should no longer be needed.

Furthermore, how DARE you take credit for keeping the company alive until it could be taken over!!! YOU guys are responsible for MOST of the problems. Granted there is enough fault to go around, but you get the majority of it. Your front liners kept us loyal, certainly not management. Without them, there would be no customers, so don't be quick to pat yourself on the back. THEY deserve bonuses-YOU should be paying US back....

I could say more, but proper decorum prohibits it....

 

[qwerty]

How about this:

1) the executives have contracts that pay them a market rate salary, and the company (the Board of Directors) thinks it more economical to include a retention plan and keep some of these folks onboard as long as possible, in an effort to make a smooth, economical transition.

2) organized labor also has contracts (negotiated, voted on and agreed to by its members) that do not include retention. "But they put a gun to our head..." - don't even start with that whining.

Your retention is your paycheck. If you don't like it, negotiate something better or leave. This class envy is pathetic. When you join an organization that bases everything, everything on senority, then pay for performance is moot.

 

[qwerty]

Let me add that some of the morons still occupying the 8th floor deserve to be indicted for their decisions, but there are some talented VP's that continue to valiantly run their areas even knowing their days are numbered.

It's too bad the BOD can't be more selective with this plan.

 

[longing4piedmont]

The executives deserve compensation for their hard work and dedication during this transitional period. You can't operate an airline without executives, especially when you are completing a merger. The unions should concentrate on their own internal matters.

[post="300443"][/post]​

Oh yeah? This airline has been operating for years with out decent management. oops excuse me, I miss read your post. You said executives. There have been plenty of empty suits filling that description for as many years.

Not to fear. This is one name you may just see on a friend of the court filing against your robbing of the piggy bank. I will concentrate on your every move until you are shown the door and intend to use every means possible to expose them.

Like I've told you before, never make a roach mad. They hurt when they bite.

regards,

l4pi

 

[Art at ISP]

QWERTY,

I do not disagree with your assessment. I have always said there are a handful of VP's who I had hoped would stay. It is to the credit of those who remain diligently on the job knowing their days are numbered...

That said, it appears that some of them are trying to do as much damage as they can before they leave--and they are setting the tone and atmosphere for the entire group.

I respectfully disagree with your assessment of retention bonuses...to keep continuing to collect a paycheck during the transition period is bonus enough.. I vehemently oppose rewarding those who are leaving and who have caused most of this mess in the first place.

In management ranks, pay for performance is entirely appropriate, and in this case, has NOT been earned by that group...

 

[longing4piedmont]

How 'bout a little experiment.....

Next week the executives stay home. The following week the rest of the employees stay home. Whichever week the airline operates better, the group that worked that week gets the $12 million.

How 'bout it Zeus, Truth, etc - care to try it and see who's really necessary for the operation of an airline?

Jim

[post="300480"][/post]​

Short and to the point. Guess we would find out real quick who deserves the bonus.

 

[longing4piedmont]

US Airways says it has lost numerous senior executives as the company reorganized its finances during its year-long trip through Chapter 11, and says it cannot complete the deal with America West without senior officers helping to manage the transition.



And just who were these members of the brain trust that we could not do without? List please.......

The only one I know of was zipper dipper and he we are better off with out him. Can any one name one single SENIOR manager who has left?

 

[longing4piedmont]

How much are the scum bags asking for? I did not see a number?

 

[qwerty]

Who is going to buy the fuel? Who is going to make the payroll? Pay the leases? Remember there will be 2 seperate airlines operating for up to 3 years. This kind of stuff doesn't just "get done" when no one is left.

This is the most economical way of doing business. Of course they could go out and hire some short-term consultants at $800 an hour plus expenses - but I'll wager that is more expensive by a factor of 3.