U Files To Reject Labor Agreements
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If the judge has the legal authority to impeded a strile, that is the question. This move was expected, it's not something that came out of the blue..
USAirways is doing a good job of running away there passengers and trying to point the finger at everyone else.
USAirways is doing a good job of running away there passengers and trying to point the finger at everyone else.
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I think that it is morally wrong to throw out the labor agreements[not necessarly illegal]. If a company wants to pay the wages for illegal immigrant workers then I can't blame the employees one bit for walking off the job as the Eastern employees did.
I'm tired of of the Chapter 11 judges running all the airlines.Whatever happens at US Air and UAL will impact all other airlines including AA.
I wish ALL AIRLINE EMPLOYEES the very best in these troubled times and finding new careers as I also eventually will be looking for another career.
The management needs to tell the truth which is that they want to screw over all airline employees so they can have bigger stock options to cash in.
I'm tired of of the Chapter 11 judges running all the airlines.Whatever happens at US Air and UAL will impact all other airlines including AA.
I wish ALL AIRLINE EMPLOYEES the very best in these troubled times and finding new careers as I also eventually will be looking for another career.
The management needs to tell the truth which is that they want to screw over all airline employees so they can have bigger stock options to cash in.
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I think that it is morally wrong to throw out the labor agreements[not necessarly illegal]. If a company wants to pay the wages for illegal immigrant workers then I can't blame the employees one bit for walking off the job as the Eastern employees did.
I'm tired of of the Chapter 11 judges running all the airlines.Whatever happens at US Air and UAL will impact all other airlines including here at AA.
I wish ALL AIRLINE EMPLOYEES the very best in these troubled times and finding new careers as I also eventually will be looking for another career.
The airlines management needs to QUIT B.S.ing the Politicians,Judges,and public and tell them the real truth which is that they want DIRT CHEAP LABOR so they can have HUGE stock options to exercise for themselfs.
I'm tired of of the Chapter 11 judges running all the airlines.Whatever happens at US Air and UAL will impact all other airlines including here at AA.
I wish ALL AIRLINE EMPLOYEES the very best in these troubled times and finding new careers as I also eventually will be looking for another career.
The airlines management needs to QUIT B.S.ing the Politicians,Judges,and public and tell them the real truth which is that they want DIRT CHEAP LABOR so they can have HUGE stock options to exercise for themselfs.
A top negotiator with the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers predicted that the company's motion yesterday "is going to put a hell of a lot of pressure on both parties to come to a consensual agreement" before the judge can act.
Bill Freiberger, assistant general chairman for the IAM's District 142, also said a strike is an option if the contracts are abrogated but believes it will not come to that.
If the contracts are thrown out, Freiberger predicts employee morale will plummet, "the operation would probably go to hell" and the company would collapse. "It is over at that point," he said.
Talks between the IAM and US Airways are slow-going, he said. A big sticking point is the company's request to outsource the duties of many mechanics, stock clerks and airplane cleaners -- a move Freiberger said would cost 2,800 jobs.
The IAM is not giving up hope, he added. "We are going to work as hard as we can to get a consensual agreement and try to preserve as many jobs at a livable wage as we can," Freiberger said.
Bill Freiberger, assistant general chairman for the IAM's District 142, also said a strike is an option if the contracts are abrogated but believes it will not come to that.
If the contracts are thrown out, Freiberger predicts employee morale will plummet, "the operation would probably go to hell" and the company would collapse. "It is over at that point," he said.
Talks between the IAM and US Airways are slow-going, he said. A big sticking point is the company's request to outsource the duties of many mechanics, stock clerks and airplane cleaners -- a move Freiberger said would cost 2,800 jobs.
The IAM is not giving up hope, he added. "We are going to work as hard as we can to get a consensual agreement and try to preserve as many jobs at a livable wage as we can," Freiberger said.
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So what is the date that we expect the judge to make a ruling? I wanna know cause I'm starting to feel sick .... <cough, cough>.... I guess I should have had a flu shot....
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coachrowsey said:
Just as long as it's before Christmas and I get to spend the holidays with my family instead of explaining to passengers why their bags and gifts didn't make it.
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I try to practice my own code of ethics and morality every day. I will not call in sick unless I am truly ill and contagious. I think it's about respecting my co-workers, customers and myself. I am not going to cause any more stress for my fellow employees because they have to work short. Or cause some poor reserve to get screwed by having to another trip that's understaffed.
And I will be outraged if I have to work with someone who's too sick to be at work and exposes me to their infection! It's bad enough getting germs from the customers. I couldn't get a flu shot this year, the first time in nearly 20 years! My doctor tried to get one for me but it was too late.
So please, folks, no matter how angry you are at management, don't make it worse for your co-workers, either way!
Mother Dea has spoken. 😀
And I will be outraged if I have to work with someone who's too sick to be at work and exposes me to their infection! It's bad enough getting germs from the customers. I couldn't get a flu shot this year, the first time in nearly 20 years! My doctor tried to get one for me but it was too late.
So please, folks, no matter how angry you are at management, don't make it worse for your co-workers, either way!
Mother Dea has spoken. 😀
CynicalResAgent said:
USC TITLE 11 > CHAPTER 11 > SUBCHAPTER I > § 1113 (d) (1) Upon the filing of an application for rejection the court shall schedule a hearing to be held not later than fourteen days after the date of the filing of such application. All interested parties may appear and be heard at such hearing. Adequate notice shall be provided to such parties at least ten days before the date of such hearing. The court may extend the time for the commencement of such hearing for a period not exceeding seven days where the circumstances of the case, and the interests of justice require such extension, or for additional periods of time to which the trustee and representative agree.
Per the above the hearing would fall between November 26th and December 3rd.
USC TITLE 11 > CHAPTER 11 > SUBCHAPTER I > § 1113 (d) (2) The court shall rule on such application for rejection within thirty days after the date of the commencement of the hearing. In the interests of justice, the court may extend such time for ruling for such additional period as the trustee and the employees’ representative may agree to. If the court does not rule on such application within thirty days after the date of the commencement of the hearing, or within such additional time as the trustee and the employees’ representative may agree to, the trustee may terminate or alter any provisions of the collective bargaining agreement pending the ruling of the court on such application.
This part says that the ruling will be made within 30 days after the date of the "commencement" of the hearing, so December 26th to January 2nd (edited by jm). This may be extended if BOTH the trustee (the company) and employees' representatives agree. If the court doesn't rule by 30 days after commencement of the hearing the company can go ahead and terminate or alter CBAs on it's own while waiting for the ruling.
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Why don't we change the name of this forum to USA320Pilot.com! My God dude, don't you have anything better to do. You live on this forum. You must have a wireless laptop because nobody can put in rgeir fulltime at work and surf this forum like you do. You need to get a life. Your babble is of no interest to anyone except the likes of Rico and other brown tongues. Do us a favor and liquidate. I hope you like flying crop dusters because when and not if but when we liquidate there is going to be alot of Roger Ramjets looking for employment and there won't be any flying jobs out there. I can find a slave wage job anywhere. We are going DDDDOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWNNNN!
wait wait...you're going to give up your two free space positive tickets up if you burn any days between now and jan 5th....CynicalResAgent said:
oh i'm going be a good boy...boy oh boy oh boy oh boy....
MACHINISTS READY TO FIGHT
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Wasn't that a song ?? Should be fun to watch.....
Monday, Monday....
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The IAM is not giving up hope, he added. "We are going to work as hard as we can to get a consensual agreement and try to preserve as many jobs at a livable wage as we can," IAM representative Bill Freiberger said.
USA320Pilot comments: I thought the IAM was not negotiating?
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USA320Pilot
USA320Pilot comments: I thought the IAM was not negotiating?
Regards,
USA320Pilot
You know people are sick and tired of you and your snide comments and your false filled posts.
The IAM M&R have been ay CCY for two days this week and three days last week and is scheduled to be there again on Monday.
It took your group six months. Like I have told you stay out of other union's business and worry about your own, you have some kind of perverse mentality as it seems you enjoy goading other work groups. A lot of people are concerned and your diatribe does not help the situation. Give it a rest all ready. Do you want me to post your false filled OP-ED piece the ALPA MEC admonished in a Code-A-Phone Update?
Were you there? Were you sitting in the conference rooms on the 2nd floor?
You have no clue or idea of what is taking place.
If you have read the IAM DL142's updates you would know what is going on. The IAM NC is still gathering information and has been asking the company for clarification on valuations.
The IAM asked the company in written form for all the data on 10/22/04 the data was not given to the IAM till 11/3/04. It takes time for the economists and finanicial advisors to go through the data and check the accuracy of it all.
And according to the company's filing, it says no counterproposals have been given to them from the IAM, which is a true fact.
But we expect your usual diatribe because you are scared the IAM will not reach a deal US will cease to exsist and you will be on the unemployment line.
And if you read the statement, "We are going to work" is future tense, not past or present.
The IAM M&R have been ay CCY for two days this week and three days last week and is scheduled to be there again on Monday.
It took your group six months. Like I have told you stay out of other union's business and worry about your own, you have some kind of perverse mentality as it seems you enjoy goading other work groups. A lot of people are concerned and your diatribe does not help the situation. Give it a rest all ready. Do you want me to post your false filled OP-ED piece the ALPA MEC admonished in a Code-A-Phone Update?
Were you there? Were you sitting in the conference rooms on the 2nd floor?
You have no clue or idea of what is taking place.
If you have read the IAM DL142's updates you would know what is going on. The IAM NC is still gathering information and has been asking the company for clarification on valuations.
The IAM asked the company in written form for all the data on 10/22/04 the data was not given to the IAM till 11/3/04. It takes time for the economists and finanicial advisors to go through the data and check the accuracy of it all.
And according to the company's filing, it says no counterproposals have been given to them from the IAM, which is a true fact.
But we expect your usual diatribe because you are scared the IAM will not reach a deal US will cease to exsist and you will be on the unemployment line.
And if you read the statement, "We are going to work" is future tense, not past or present.
