Twu Imposes An Injustice On Tech Services

[Thrustfuljet]

Since I have asked this question to twuer a few days ago and he refused to responed I wondered if any of the other twu supporters have any thoughts about this injustice???

After all an injustice to one is an injustice to all.....



TWUER:

What do you have to say about those Tech Services guys that voted down the contract in Tulsa and got told by the TWU they were going to accept the contract anyways?

I repeat they voted DOWN the contract and told they would be accepting it anyways!!! :angry:

 

[Checking it Out]

It seems to me, the vote took place and the majority who voted, voted to except the contract! So what is your point?

Are you advocating additional divide tactics? Is this your promotion of Solidarity? Divide and Conquer-Divide and Conquer- Divide and outsource is AMFA’s only function?

What a joke!!

 

[Thrustfuljet]

It seems to me, the vote took place and the majority who voted, voted to except the contract! So what is your point?

This is a classic example of cio not knowing what he is talking about.

Tech Services is their own title group voting on their own contract. They voted down the contract concessions and got told by the twu they would be excepting it anyways.

Cio you may find it a joke, but I see it a very serious injustice to us all!!!

 

[Thrustfuljet]

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TWU/AA Contracts, as of April,2003
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TWU's Concessionary Agreements made with AA after disclosure of the imminent threat of bankruptcy in February of 2003.


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This comes right off the twu local 514 websight, notice at the bottom the Tech Specialists contract!

 

[TWU informer]

It seems to me, the vote took place and the majority who voted, voted to except the contract! So what is your point?

Are you advocating additional divide tactics? Is this your promotion of Solidarity? Divide and Conquer-Divide and Conquer- Divide and outsource is AMFA’s only function?

What a joke!!

CIO,

Read what you just posted and then spend the time to read this...

THANK YOU CIO, YOU FINALLY GET IT, AND YOU POST THAT YOU KNOW THE PROBLEM. NOW, WHAT IS THE SOLUTION?

The Concept of “Craft or Classâ€

This is Federal Legal concept “Craft or Classâ€

In accordance with the Railway Labor Act, the Federal Government has decided that certain work groups have a mutuality of interest at the bargaining table and in advancing worker related issues, and that groups outside of that particular craft or class should have no participation in how the union is run or at least in the initial decision as to who represents that work group. And so Pilots vote with Pilots, and Flight Attendants as matter of law are prohibited from voting with the Pilots. And in turn, the Pilots are prohibited by law from voting with the Flight Attendants because they are considered to be in different Craft or Classes by the National Mediation Board. And Mechanic and Related Workers within the Airline Industry are entitled by law to vote just amongst themselves.

Supporters of the Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association (AMFA) believe that it comprises our mission to remain associated within a union structure with other crafts or classes that according to Federal Government do NOT share our mutuality of interest. The mission is further compromised when we remain associated with other crafts or classes within the union structure of “majority rule†and our particular craft or class is the minority in size. The Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association (AMFA) is the only union in this current debate at American Airlines that says “We will forbid ourselvesâ€, it will be unconstitutional for us to go and represent baggage handlers, flight attendants, or passenger service clerks, and we will not let ourselves do that because this would compromise our mission. We wish the baggage handlers and other crafts or classes on the property the very best, but they cannot pick our pockets, we wish them to get the very best on their own, but they should no longer be allowed to ride on our backs. In other words, it is time for the airline industry to decouple the mechanic vs. baggage handler pay and benefit structure. It is suffice to say that since deregulation of the airline industry which since enactment has created enormous competition and pressure on airline ticket pricing, and that has resulted in the craft or class of mechanic and related workers suffering in economic buying power, and especially when compared to the Pilots and Flight Attendants who at American belong to craft specific unions. In the mid 1970’s, the Flight Attendants of American Airlines were also represented by the Transport Workers Union of American (TWU), and just as the mechanics today seek a change to a craft specific union, they also left the TWU in favor of the independent Association of Professional Flight Attendants (APFA) The craft or class of Mechanic and Related at American Airlines can no longer afford to remain in an organization that advocates a linking of different work groups that according to law do not share a mutuality of interest.

Regardless of good or bad economic times, and regardless of whether the union is negotiating concessions to prevent a bankruptcy filing or negotiating from economic growth with corporate profits, the formula by which the economic pie is divided amongst the union membership is a union decision. The recent concessions are a clear case in point, because American Airlines was demanding $620 Million in concessions from the TWU, but how those give backs were divided up was a union decision, not a company decision. And the facts are clear, that the craft or class of Mechanic and Related at American took more than our fair share of that amount, and it is also clear this was a union decision.


AMFA IS THE RIGHT CHOICE FOR SKILLED TECHNICIANS

 

[Checking it Out]

I have a tissue!

 

[Thrustfuljet]

your gonna need it when AMFA comes in.....

 

[TWU informer]

Are you advocating additional divide tactics? Is this your promotion of Solidarity? Divide and Conquer-Divide and Conquer- Divide and outsource is AMFA’s only function?

What a joke!!

CIO,

Take alook at this pal,

sol•i•dar•i•ty

Pronunciation: (sol"i-dar'i-tE), [key]
—n.,
—pl. -ties.
1. union or fellowship arising from common responsibilities and interests, as between members of a group or between classes, peoples, etc.: to promote solidarity among union members.
2. community of feelings, purposes, etc.
3. community of responsibilities and interests.


You use the term SOLIDARITY with great pride, but the definition of SOLIDARITY lends itself to the division of union fellowship arising from common responsibilities and interests.

The Federal Government of the United States has determined that the Mechanic and Related work group does share a "mutuality of interest", thus you cannot have true SOLIDARITY unless we join forces with workers that share our common responsibilities and interests. Because with the TWU, we are united based on a "strength in numbers" concept, not the concept of craft or class. Read the english language definition of "solidarity" and tell us how it does NOT apply to what the AMFA offers?

You are so ate up with defending your position using slogans and union based terms that you forget to even understand and review the TRUE MEANING of what you say.

Tell us CIO, in spefically what way do you hold common responsibilities and interests with a baggage handler, stock clerk, bus driver, or railroad worker? Because the Federal Governement has delcared otherwise. And when you enter economic negotiations with your employer, how do divide up that pie using your version of SOLIDARITY? This is not a flaming question CIO, I really do want to hear your position and understanding of the word "SOLIDARITY". Thanks

If you use the word solidarity loosely and do not understand the meaning of the word them simply say so, but if you are in disagreement with the facts presented above, then educate me please.

Of course, there is another common reference to the word SOLIDARITY, if you do a search engine internet query on "SOLIDARITY", you will find this.
IS THIS WHAT YOU MEAN BY "SOLIDARITY" WHEN YOU USE THE WORD?

Solidarity

 

[Thrustfuljet]

I have a tissue!

Let me get this straight....

After giving you the facts all you can came back with to defend this injustice is "I have a tissue?"

I will be glad to vote your @$$ out of office, if in fact tou are holding office with the twu.

 

[Bob Owens]

It seems to me, the vote took place and the majority who voted, voted to except the contract! So what is your point?

What is your point?

If they voted to "except" the contract, that means they rejected it.

Look up "except" in the dictionary dummy!

Did you mean accept?

Thats the problem with the TWU, guys like you are writing our contract language when you can barely understand it!

 

[Thrustfuljet]

cio the only one out there that can defend this injustice?

Rather poorly too I might add.....

 

[Boomer]

Per NMB decision, the Tech Services and SimTechs are recognized as belonging to the class and craft of Maintenance & Related.

Although each of the above work units has maintained a separate contract, they should have properly been included in the Maintenance & Related Negotiations and vote.

The TWU chose to divided and conquer by putting more Maintenance & Related members in with the joint negotiations the same way that they allowed FSC Presidents to vote on Maint. & Related Concessions.

 

[Thrustfuljet]

Boomer:
The way it was explained to me by the twu in the past was that we all vote on our contracts individually and if any one group does not vote in their contract then we all hold off until they renogotiate that groups contract. This way we all go on strike together if needed for strength in numbers.

Several years back we tried to get the twu to let us stand alone as mechanics and the twu refused us. I can remember the vote by hands on that at the union hall and had an eye opening experiance on what a farce the local 514 was cause they wanted us all to stay together. To this day I still laugh about that rigged vote....

 

[Thrustfuljet]

QUOTE (mojo13 @ Mar 4 2004, 12:42 AM)
email your question to the ATD


Why bother?

I know that they monitor this board. They testified to that at my Kangaroo court.

OK Jim, since you are monitoring this board how about stepping up and answering to this injustice!!!

 

[Thrustfuljet]

Does Jim Little even exist?