TWU and Teamsters are mirror images of each other.

[ThirdSeatHero]

Anomaly, if this is or was the case, you said it yourself. UA agreed to open early after ibt won representation over AMFA. UA could have said NO. And ther's nothing within the legal system to force them. They have to agree.

swamt its not the case.

In the UAL 2005-2009 agreement AMFA negotiated language that provided for negotiations to begin on a new agreement up 270 days in advance of the amendable date

See Article XXVII - Effective Date and Duration Page:121

http://teamsterssfo....mfa_UAL_CBA.pdf

The ibt won representation at UAL in April of 2008 and didn't begin negotiations until April of 2009, within the 270 period cited in Article:XXVII

http://ibtualnegotia...tions_Begin.pdf

Contract negotiations at UAL opened in the time frame layed out in our CBA. It was not FORCED open by the ibt.

FYI

here is a video from the ibt campaign at UAL where the (then) Airline Division Director promises to take UAL to court if they refused to open the contract early(*NOTE* the case he cites is a MERGER not simply one union replacing another)

 

[xUT]

Nothing but lies. AA would have to agree to reopen the contract, and the chances of that are zero.

Exactly correct but they will be back repeating the same thing over and over.

B) xUT

 

[Vortilon]

Do you actually think the ALLIED PILOTS could have received a temporary stay on the Term Sheets without expensive LEGAL Representation? Their own statement released after the ruling by Judge Lane listed SEVERAL Attorneys involved in the case. I contend that amfa does not have the money to hire an expensive legal team to represent its members in a prolonged C11 BATTLE in the Courts.

What is your fixation on the fallacy that the AMFA doesn't have any money, and won't have any in the future? Do the math Einstein, once AMFA finally gets in at AA - they will be pulling in $500K per month depending on how deep the headcount reduction is in the M & R group. That money will not be used on all the politically correct fluff that the TWU or the Teamsters wastes money on! At this point, it is embarrassing even having to pay dues to the TWU - knowing it's a complete waste of money. The Teamsters are worse yet for wasting money, and being impersonal. You see, unlike you I was a Teamster for almost 5 years. I speak from firsthand experience - not from bullet points off a flyer.

 

[riceweevil]

What is your fixation on the fallacy that the AMFA doesn't have any money, and won't have any in the future? Do the math Einstein, once AMFA finally gets in at AA - they will be pulling in $500K per month depending on how deep the headcount reduction is in the M & R group. That money will not be used on all the politically correct fluff that the TWU or the Teamsters wastes money on! At this point, it is embarrassing even having to pay dues to the TWU - knowing it's a complete waste of money. The Teamsters are worse yet for wasting money, and being impersonal. You see, unlike you I was a Teamster for almost 5 years. I speak from firsthand experience - not from bullet points off a flyer.

You do not even have a clue of what unions I have belonged to. You don't even if I'm a current IBT member.
Typical amfa supporter: make statements and accuations that you know nothing about.


Vote IBT

 

[odie01]

You do not even have a clue of what unions I have belonged to. You don't even if I'm a current IBT member.
Typical amfa supporter: make statements and accuations that you know nothing about.


Vote IBT

Hows the IBT drive going at AFW, Weevildic? We need more cards, so we can mail them BLANK!!!

 

[FWAAA]

In my experience, the larger the font and the more colors are used, the more likely the poster can't win the debate with words and has to resort to cheap gimmickry. In this case, they're used to try to cover up the lies. Not working, Liar.

 

[odie01]

In my experience, the larger the font and the more colors are used, the more likely the poster can't win the debate with words and has to resort to cheap gimmickry. In this case, they're used to try to cover up the lies. Not working, Liar.

Yep, He'll be laid off soon.....If he even works for AA

 

[xUT]

In my experience, the larger the font and the more colors are used, the more likely the poster can't win the debate with words and has to resort to cheap gimmickry. In this case, they're used to try to cover up the lies. Not working, Liar.

It's part of the razzle dazzle.
Soon another will show up in tap shoes doing the two step.
B) xUT

 

[riceweevil]

In my experience, the larger the font and the more colors are used, the more likely the poster can't win the debate with words and has to resort to cheap gimmickry. In this case, they're used to try to cover up the lies. Not working, Liar.

Yeah, you know a thing or two about lying yourself.
Typical amfa supporter:make FALSE accuations against your opponents to divert the attention away from how lousy amfa really is.

VOTE IBT

 

[odie01]

Yeah, you know a thing or two about lying yourself.
Typical amfa supporter:make FALSE accuations against your opponents to divert the attention away from how lousy amfa really is.

VOTE IBT

I have my 3D glasses on and this is really cool

 

[FWAAA]

Yeah, you know a thing or two about lying yourself.

Keep up the lies, Liar.

 

[swamt]

O, you mean section 6 negotiations with observers who can monitor the process and report to the membership what's really going on? Didn't you know, according to the TWU minions, that it's counter productive and will result in failed negotiations?

Yes sir! I stand corrected sir! May I have another sir?? LOL!!

 

[swamt]

Nothing but lies. AA would have to agree to reopen the contract, and the chances of that are zero.

Correct. And I would be willing to bet that AA will not agree to re-open.

 

[swamt]

Funny, when someone is correct with the postings, how quiet Anomaly and Rice gets....

 

[Vortilon]

You do not even have a clue of what unions I have belonged to. You don't even if I'm a current IBT member.
Typical amfa supporter: make statements and accuations that you know nothing about.


Vote IBT

I'll take a "typical AMFA supporter" over a mindless drone like you any day. Now run back to the collective bug boy.