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KCFlyer said:
 
What will Trump do to bring them back revitalize South Carolina.  What will Trump do to bring back jobs and make PIttsburgh "Steel City" once again?  Cut taxes to zero?  Foreign competitors invested money to upgrade steel mills rather than shareholder dividends....what will he do to make it more attractive to bring industry back to the US?  
 
Dumping by nationalized gov't owned mills is what killed the US steel industry from Japan and Europe, now Europe deals with the Chinese doing the same thing to them.
 
You're talking to a guy who lost his job Jan 2, 1982 while they loaded up the storage yard with Jap ingots.
 
Then we became an A/P mechanic and enjoyed a 20 year funeral.
 
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Dumping by nationalized gov't owned mills is what killed the US steel industry from Japan and Europe, now Europe deals with the Chinese doing the same thing to them.
 
You're talking to a guy who lost his job Jan 2, 1982 while they loaded up the storage yard with Jap ingots.
 
Then we became an A/P mechanic and enjoyed a 20 year funeral.
 
Japanese companies invested in the business.  American companies invested in shareholder returns.  One grew...the other had a very limited lifespan.  But in the era of Reagan, the shareholder became king.  Everything was to provide shareholder value.  If they had to take a few years of reduced shareholder value to make their industry competitive, this was unacceptable.  Shareholder value uber ales.   The trouble is that when another country was investing in technologies, pretty soon it's cheaper to move it there than to upgrade here.  America has become the home of the fast back.  This is due in large part to the republicans. 
 
What has Trump proposed to bring back the US Steel industry? 
 
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KCFlyer said:
 
Japanese companies invested in the business.  American companies invested in shareholder returns.  One grew...the other had a very limited lifespan.  But in the era of Reagan, the shareholder became king.  Everything was to provide shareholder value.  If they had to take a few years of reduced shareholder value to make their industry competitive, this was unacceptable.  Shareholder value uber ales.   The trouble is that when another country was investing in technologies, pretty soon it's cheaper to move it there than to upgrade here.  America has become the home of the fast back.  This is due in large part to the republicans. 
 
What has Trump proposed to bring back the US Steel industry? 
 
Steel is still being produced here in fewer areas with higher output than the 'good old days'. Just a matter of efficiency. Steel is still dumped too. How do you do anything in a global economy? Tariffs?
 
What has HC or the Stoner?
 
USS built the mills in Japan and Venezuela.
 
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Steel is still being produced here in fewer areas with higher output than the 'good old days'. Just a matter of efficiency. Steel is still dumped too. How do you do anything in a global economy? Tariffs?
 
What has HC or the Stoner?
 
USS built the mills in Japan and Venezuela.
 
 
Look...we know Hillary and Bernie won't do anything for America....what will Trump do?  
 
Something else....will he be allowed to run his real estate/clothing/reality TV empire while he is president?  For a guy who likes to talk about being "really rich", I wonder if he'd be content with a job paying $400K per year. 
 
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Look...we know Hillary and Bernie won't do anything for America....what will Trump do?  
 
Something else....will he be allowed to run his real estate/clothing/reality TV empire while he is president?  For a guy who likes to talk about being "really rich", I wonder if he'd be content with a job paying $400K per year. 
 
They all speak in generalities and not specifics. Its up to you to fill your mind  with sugar plums as your eyes glaze over and create your vision to their grand plans.
 
That's what its all about. Go look art their 'platforms' and fill in their blanks.
 
If I wasn't seeing it with my own eyes, i wouldn't be believing it.  TRUMP is the Greatest 'Snake Oil salesman' I ever seen.  And the REPLUGS can't slurp up enough of ' it ' fast enough (Thank God).   I mean, think about it.  A loud-mouthed NYer, who is NOT a real REPLUG, is dazzling all these  Bible Thumping Red Necks in of all places, SOUTH CAROLINA !
 
They say history repeats itself, and by God in South Carolina it certainly does. (Yes, there are a lot other states to vote yet, but this is T-Rumps official 'blast off' to the nomination )
 
Trump is a perfect second coming of  John Calhoun (in SC).  Calhoun was responsible for 'lighting the fuse' for the bull-shite excuse for States Rights aka the CIVIL WAR, and we ALL know how THAT worked out for the South.
 
Trump  ='s Calhoun..................The GOP  ='s the SOUTH.
 
All I can say is..............GO  DONALD  GO,...GO  DONALD..GO,  and propel HILLARY straight in '1600    !!!
 
The GOP.
 
The " GIFT that............KEEPS on  GIVING "
 
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha  !!!!!!!!!
 
Trump should set an example and bring the manufacturing of his clothes back to the US, instead of being made in China and Mexico.
 
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Trump should set an example and bring the manufacturing of his clothes back to the US, instead of being made in China and Mexico.
 
I posted something similar on another thread and the response was that auto manufacturing was the second largest industry in SC, so who cares if clothes are made in Mexico.  
 
With thinking like that, then who cares if cars are made in Mexico.  And who cares if Steel is made in China.  And who cares if *insert industry here* is made somewhere else...Trump promised to send the illegals back.  And that will open up TONS of landscaping jobs for Americans....so who really cares if manufacturing is somewhere else.
 
KCFlyer said:
Foreign competitors invested money to upgrade steel mills rather than shareholder dividends....
KCFlyer said:
Japanese companies invested in the business.  American companies invested in shareholder returns.  
What you are saying is true.
 
The flip side of that is Japanese workers have a different work culture than American workers. I doubt many of them go on forums and complain for years on end about their employer for instance.........
 
Japanese workers are driven to be successful and productive. I come on here and see American workers brag about "doing just enough to not get fired".
 
Why should American Airlines put value on employee's labor and skill when employees make public declarations of doing just enough to get a paycheck? See the forum link below for examples of what I am talking about.
 
http://www.airlineforums.com/topic/59608-do-you-go-out-of-your-way-anymore/
 
DallasConehead, on 17 Feb 2016 - 2:46 PM, said:
Baaahahaha... no way,,, never do anything extra for the company,, the guys, thats a different story, always go the extra mile to help out the brothers,,, but the comapny, just whats required and thats it.

 
SkydrolJunkie, on 17 Feb 2016 - 3:42 PM, said:
I go out of my way a lot more now........trying to get out of working!  It's tough sometimes!

 
At any rate, the reason I came one here was to get feedback of Carl Icahn's endorsement of Donald Trump. I suspect legacy TWA guys have some pretty strong comments about that subject.
 
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If I wasn't seeing it with my own eyes, i wouldn't be believing it.  TRUMP is the Greatest 'Snake Oil salesman' I ever seen.  And the REPLUGS can't slurp up enough of ' it ' fast enough (Thank God).   I mean, think about it.  A loud-mouthed NYer, who is NOT a real REPLUG, is dazzling all these  Bible Thumping Red Necks in of all places, SOUTH CAROLINA !
 
They say history repeats itself, and by God in South Carolina it certainly does. (Yes, there are a lot other states to vote yet, but this is T-Rumps official 'blast off' to the nomination )
 
Trump is a perfect second coming of  John Calhoun (in SC).  Calhoun was responsible for 'lighting the fuse' for the bull-shite excuse for States Rights aka the CIVIL WAR, and we ALL know how THAT worked out for the South.
 
Trump  ='s Calhoun..................The GOP  ='s the SOUTH.
 
All I can say is..............GO  DONALD  GO,...GO  DONALD..GO,  and propel HILLARY straight in '1600    !!!
 
The GOP.
 
The " GIFT that............KEEPS on  GIVING "
 
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha  !!!!!!!!!
 
Dude, the snake oil salesmen are the establishment crowd of both parties. They keep selling the populace merde tainted promises that people have had enough of.
 
700UW said:
Trump should set an example and bring the manufacturing of his clothes back to the US, instead of being made in China and Mexico.
 
So should many others.
 
delldude said:
 
Dude, the snake oil salesmen are the establishment crowd of both parties. They keep selling the populace merde tainted promises that people have had enough of.
 
 
So should many others.
How many others are running for POTUS and criticizing companies for manufacturing items outside of the US, while doing the same with his  own company?
 
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700UW said:
How many others are running for POTUS and criticizing companies for manufacturing items outside of the US, while doing the same with his  own company?
 
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Why do you tell half the story?
 
 
WALLACE: But this brings up the point, the conservative American Enterprise Institute says, look, Donald Trump, he owns a dozen hotels, properties, all over the world.  Your Trump Collection clothing line, some of it is made in Mexico – 

TRUMP:  It's true.

WALLACE:  -- and China.

TRUMP:  That's true. I want it to be made here.

WALLACE:  I know, but the point they say is you're doing just what Ford is, you're taking –

TRUMP:  Sure.

WALLACE:  -- advantage of a global trading market.

TRUMP:  I never dispute that.  I put it in my speeches.  I say it -- the ties are made in China and different things.  I don't want that. I just ordered 4,000 television sets. You know where they come from? South Korea.  And yet, we defend South Korea for practically nothing.  We have 28,000 soldiers. They're making a fortune.
 
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/melanie-hunter/donald-trump-i-never-disputed-some-my-clothing-line-was-made-mexico
 
Justification, doesnt work.
 
So if 20 cars are speeding down the road, its ok for you to do it since they are, we get it.
 
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700UW said:
Justification, doesnt work.
 
So if 20 cars are speeding down the road, its ok for you to do it since they are, we get it.
 
If you are speeding, you are more likely to contribute to much higher death stats than homicide by gun.
 
Did you know that?
 
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