Topped out Aircraft Mechanic for the Largest airline in the World

[ICEMAN]

I take your point Mr Former Moderator. The pay rates of UAL and Delta
mechanics (base plus licenses) are now below 30.00 an hour. But, when I
checked places where the median jet mechanic would likely be a Delta or
UAL employee (Atlanta, San Francisco) I see median annual salaries
which are equivalent to preconcession and prebankruptcy pay at those
carriers. It leads me to question whether the salary data has been updated.
Not surprisingly, when I look at the actual openings for aircraft
mechanics available on this website, the pay is not even equivalent to the
Northwest scab rate (27 and change) much less the AA rate. I guess this
is why there is a warning that when dealing with contract positions the
job seeker should check the hourly rate, rather than the annual pay
estimated by the Human Resources personnel.

 

[Bill]

Boo-hoo!!!! WHHAAAAAAA!!!!

Do you guys ever shut up or do you believe everything you read??? HMMMM????? Makes you wonder!!

 

[TWU informer]

Boo-hoo!!!! WHHAAAAAAA!!!!

Do you guys ever shut up or do you believe everything you read??? HMMMM????? Makes you wonder!!

I must have missed something Bill.

What was your point?

 

[TWU informer]

The data in CareerBlunder is obviously skewed somehow.

When I plugged in Duluth, MN, which is home to the now-shuttered AMFA/NWA base, and a few cities where I know outsource vendors are located, I got the following results:

Roanoke, TX	  $62,620  $70,302  $75,462  
Duluth, MN	   $62,550  $70,223  $75,378  
Greensboro, NC   $61,925  $69,522  $74,625  
Mobile, AL	   $59,395  $66,681  $71,576  
Lake Charles,LA  $60,845  $68,309  $73,323  
Abilene, TX	  $58,461  $65,633  $70,451

Do the folks working at MRO's in Mobile, Greensboro and Lake Charles really only make $3-4K less per year than a union mechanic at AA?

How 'bout the Eagle overhaul employees in Abilene?

I seriously doubt it, and having previously looked at salary comparisons with CareerBlunder before, there's no way I'd even consider using it as a benchmark for figuring out what to ask for when on an interview...

When I plug in the payscale of some current 8 year plus aircraft mechanics at AA in Tulsa, I get...

$34,000.0 per year.

These are licensed mechanics, that were first stripped of experience recognition, then stripped of license pay, and relegated to OSM shop repair, and have now been stripped of seniority rights to bid AMT positions.

No need to look outside AA View attachment 4187, just look right inside the walls of the Tulsa Overhaul Base.

That is reality.

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[Oneflyer]

When I plug in the payscale of some current 8 year plus aircraft mechanics at AA in Tulsa, I get...

$34,000.0 per year.

These are licensed mechanics, that were first stripped of experience recognition, then stripped of license pay, and relegated to OSM shop repair, and have now been stripped of seniority rights to bid AMT positions.

No need to look outside AA View attachment 4187, just look right inside the walls of the Tulsa Overhaul Base.

That is reality.

Perhaps if they are so highly skilled they should look for a job outside of an airline and an industry that is in constant termoil and pays sh!tty wages to everyone up and down the payscale.

Once again if there is someone willing to do the work for $34k and they do a compentant job, why should the company pay more?

 

[Bob Owens]

Perhaps if they are so highly skilled they should look for a job outside of an airline and an industry that is in constant termoil and pays sh!tty wages to everyone up and down the payscale.

Once again if there is someone willing to do the work for $34k and they do a compentant job, why should the company pay more?

So what you are saying is that corporations should pay everyone just enough so people dont quit and all workers with no aspiations for moving into management should do just enough not to get fired right?

Now tell us how "Pull Together Win Together" works.

 

[j7915]

So what you are saying is that corporations should pay everyone just enough so people dont quit and all workers with no aspiations for moving into management should do just enough not to get fired right?

Now tell us how "Pull Together Win Together" works.

The way it works Bob, is that the companies find the cheapest labor they can. GE's manager of locomotive overhaul was quoted in the Wall Street Journal, as wishing he could send locomotives to chinas instead of Mexico, but the lead times would be too long.

As always I find it interesting that in all these discussions, you all are comparing apples and oranges. If you want to make what SWA makes then sluff of overhaul, cut the AA amt headcount to what it is now at the hubs. Hope that the MRO's will provide the reliability to keep AA's planes flying, particularly the international routes. I have noticed that you line guys are picking up third party work. Is that ETOPS? How many MROs or FBOs can provide ETOPS?

AA is apparently hanging in there for now. But if you guys keep it up maybe the financial wizzard will finally listen and follow your suggestions, cut personnel, flights, raise prizes, SWA still does not have a 99% load factor, they need help.

With all your brilliance, and insight, how come the exec bonuses came as a surprise? Don't you read the corp fillings to the SEC?

 

[limit]

As always I find it interesting that in all these discussions, you all are comparing apples and oranges. If you want to make what SWA makes then sluff of overhaul, cut the AA amt headcount to what it is now at the hubs.

SWA does some overhaul work in house and pays all its mechanics (line or not)a lot more than anybody else.
UA, NW, and US all do some overhaul work at home and they asked their line mechanics for pay and benefit cuts even though they were allready making a lot less than SW mechanics.
I do not know about apples or oranges ,but some of you guys are just a different kind of fruit.