Title 2

Chuck Schalk

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Title 2 is starting to realize that amfa is not what the twu claims they are. First off title 2 is no longer under cargo and is now under aircraft maintenance with the new airline far as the company is concerned. Secondly the twu has stated that next negotiations there will be only 3 negotiators from AA and 3 negotiators from USA Air. The 3 presidents from AA will go from local 591,514, and 567. They said since title 2 does not have their own president their voice will be through those presidents above. With amfa you have your own negotiating chairman and committee to negotiate. Title 2 has slid backwards and regardless of what anyone says, title 2 head count has been cut in half and have created different payscales dividing the ranks.
With the airline doug parker and his team are not fuzzy friendly towards keeping title 2 just look at us air and their title 2 as a guide post.
Your best fighting chance is to have your group represented by your own people and that is exactly what amfaprovides for title 2. You control your negotiations and you make the final decision just like stores did with the last bk negotiations and negotiated their own terms. Why wouldn't want that for title 2 ?
you can......sign an amfa card and give your members a voice

The best advice I can give to our title 2 members is stop listening to hearsay and ask an amfa organizer questions about amfa or any concerns you may have. I assure you that any response from an organizer will be supported by documentation and/or facts.
at least see why 90 percent of the line sign amfa cards consistently. What is it that draws them back
everytime?

BTW.... twu local 501 has threatened title 2 members not to hand out amfa cards or else.....
 
Great, another AMFA thread....maybe the mod(s) will eventually lock or combine one or two of them!!
 
Oh, and the AMFA follower who went to a closed thread (Wall St. expectations) and gave me a red mark after it was closed...hilarious!!
 
Follower...... B)
 
Update....Two followers.
 
Maybe if some of you "followers" would get out and lead like OldGuy@AA, 1AA, Chuck and a few others instead of worrying about rating people and being followers, you could replace the TWU. But you are the weak and until you learn to lead, you will have the TWU and be right back here whining and rating comments...
 
AANOTOK said:
Follower...... B)
 
Update....Two followers.
 
Maybe if some of you "followers" would get out and lead like OldGuy@AA, 1AA, Chuck and a few others instead of worrying about rating people and being followers, you could replace the TWU. But you are the weak and until you learn to lead, you will have the TWU and be right back here whining and rating comments...
AANOTOK - Since I am in TULE and we didn't work with Fleet, I like to see how you are thinking on a lot of these issues.  You are both and insider and outsider.  As an AA employee and TWU member you deal with some of the issues that we do as AMTs, but as a FSC you can also take a look from the outside and give an opinion where sometimes we AMTs don't see.  You keep posting and don't worry about red or green.  I am flattered truthfully that you mentioned me in the same sentence as Chuck.  He is a true leader and I try to follow his lead.  If we had more like him we would be in great shape.  I think we need more like you too.
 
As far as outside looking in, when my wife sees me typing she asks if I'm "On that stupid blog again?" hahaha.  I bet she wishes I would surf for porn instead. hahahahaha
 
OldGuy@AA said:
You are both and insider and outsider.
 
 As an AA employee and TWU member you deal with some of the issues that we do as AMTs, but as a FSC you can also take a look from the outside and give an opinion where sometimes we AMTs don't see.  
 
Insider/Outsider
 
Not an AA employee but I have recall (to nothing) and I guess as long as I have recall I am a member of TWU 514.
 
I am also from TULE. (so I am a native)
 
Just saying.
 
OldGuy@AA said:
As far as outside looking in, when my wife sees me typing she asks if I'm "On that stupid blog again?" hahaha.  I bet she wishes I would surf for porn instead. hahahahaha
It is hard for people outside of the airline industry to understand, but anyone on here understands. The airline industry "stains" people. That is about as accurate a description as I could think of.  
 
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US air and Parker group have shown their fondness to outsourcing and our title 2 group will be under attack next contract. Who would you rather have negotiating your future.
 
With AMFA Title 2 will have their own membership elected negotiating committee and Negotiators at the table.
 
Under the TWU,  Your negotiations will be with the presidents of locals 591,567, and 514
 
 
think and sign a card for an election,  there is nothing more to wait for
 

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