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The Million Muslim March
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Hackman
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The founding fathers still believed in the Judeo-Christian values, regardless if the believed in Jesus Christ or not. Abraham Lincoln was on the fence of being a practicing christian. He did say this about the bible; "In regard to this great book, I have but to say, it is the best gift God has given to men. All the good Savior gave to the world was communicated through this book. But for it we could not know right from wrong." He also spoke these words at the Gettysburg Address: "that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion — that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain — that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom — and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."
Here again, arguing with a person who detests any mention of religion and proclaims "without god life is everything" is about like herding cats.
Democrats want government regulation for everything, look at the Nanny States like Kalifornia, New Yawk, Detroitlet Michigan to see where the Libtards in control have driven these tax-ridden states to near extinction.
How many EO's is the difference Obama vs Bush? I'm pretty sure Obama is winning the EO race.
My #### does stink, but nothing like libtard cowardice.
Its not the quantity between the two, its the intent on circumventing the Congressional process and Constitution when he can't get his way. I don't believe Bush made a habit of this.
I believe they refer to this as a dictatorship.
Maybe you can cite them for us.
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Sorry for the formatting
Saying something doesn't make it true
(i don't believe Bush made a habit of this...)
I don't know just how you want to define "habit", but it appears he had more of a havit of using EO s than Barrack... So far...
President Total Orders Order Number
Franklin D. Roosevelt 3,522 6071 - 9537
Harry S. Truman 907 9538 - 10431
Dwight D. Eisenhower 484 10432 - 10913
John F. Kennedy 214 10914 - 11127
Lyndon B. Johnson 325 11128 - 11451
Richard Nixon 346 11452 - 11797
Gerald R. Ford 169 11798 - 11966
Jimmy Carter 320 11967 - 12286
Ronald Reagan 381 12287 - 12667
George Bush 166 12668 - 12833
William J. Clinton 364 12834 - 13197
George W. Bush 291 13198 - 13488
Barack Obama 157 13489 - 13645...
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/disposition.html
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/orders.php
Saying something doesn't make it true
(i don't believe Bush made a habit of this...)
I don't know just how you want to define "habit", but it appears he had more of a havit of using EO s than Barrack... So far...
President Total Orders Order Number
Franklin D. Roosevelt 3,522 6071 - 9537
Harry S. Truman 907 9538 - 10431
Dwight D. Eisenhower 484 10432 - 10913
John F. Kennedy 214 10914 - 11127
Lyndon B. Johnson 325 11128 - 11451
Richard Nixon 346 11452 - 11797
Gerald R. Ford 169 11798 - 11966
Jimmy Carter 320 11967 - 12286
Ronald Reagan 381 12287 - 12667
George Bush 166 12668 - 12833
William J. Clinton 364 12834 - 13197
George W. Bush 291 13198 - 13488
Barack Obama 157 13489 - 13645...
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/disposition.html
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/orders.php
Glenn Quagmire
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"Republicans and conservatives have complained loudly lately that President Obama has been resorting to non-democratic and unconstitutional governance; imperiously ignoring the so-called “will of the people” by issuing a cascade of new executive orders. According to Senator Rand Paul (R-KY), Mr. Obama is acting “like a king” by issuing his recent executive orders on gun control. Conservative author and radio talk show host Mark Levin contends that Obama’s executive orders are “un-American” and even “fascistic.”
If so, then certain Republican presidents – including Dwight Eisenhower, Gerald Ford, and Ronald Reagan – must be classified as even more monarchical, un-American and “fascistic” than Barack Obama. The nearby table shows the number of executive orders issued per year by every U.S. president since 1900."
..."No specific provision in the U.S. Constitution and no statute explicitly permits or governs executive orders, and on these grounds alone the “strict” constitutionalists insist that none are ever warranted. But even John Locke defended the principle of executive “prerogative,” in 1690, as long as it violated no rights. There’s also a grant of “executive power” in Article II, Section 1, Clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution, as well as a requirement” (in Article II, Section 3, Clause 5) that the executive branch “take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed.” Executive orders are valid so long as they don’t violate other provisions and rights."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardsalsman/2013/01/28/when-it-comes-to-abuse-of-presidential-power-obama-is-a-mere-piker/
If so, then certain Republican presidents – including Dwight Eisenhower, Gerald Ford, and Ronald Reagan – must be classified as even more monarchical, un-American and “fascistic” than Barack Obama. The nearby table shows the number of executive orders issued per year by every U.S. president since 1900."
..."No specific provision in the U.S. Constitution and no statute explicitly permits or governs executive orders, and on these grounds alone the “strict” constitutionalists insist that none are ever warranted. But even John Locke defended the principle of executive “prerogative,” in 1690, as long as it violated no rights. There’s also a grant of “executive power” in Article II, Section 1, Clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution, as well as a requirement” (in Article II, Section 3, Clause 5) that the executive branch “take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed.” Executive orders are valid so long as they don’t violate other provisions and rights."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardsalsman/2013/01/28/when-it-comes-to-abuse-of-presidential-power-obama-is-a-mere-piker/
Issue is how many circumvented Congress and the Constitutional process by Bush?
You can't compare Obama anyway.
