The "l" Word Again.

[BoeingBoy]

P.S. The roll call is now controlled by the CLT, DCA, LGA, and BOS Reps.

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You know, it'd be a shame if those pilots forced out of PIT by the reductions there changed the balance of power in somewhere like, say, CLT. What was the margin for the current reps in the last CLT election - a handful of votes?

Jim

 

[USA320Pilot]

BoeingBoy:

I initially skimmed over your post regarding Lakefield's meeting and now I will retract my earlier comments. I went back and read your other post, taken from the Council 41 letter, which I did not see until after I saw your comments. Once again these Reps selectively picked points from the discussion, paraphrased, and most likely purposely left out other important points that paint a fare different picture.

But, what's new concerning the PHL Reps who all 3 combined flew just one trip in November and December. I guess there was an ALPA epidemic in PHL.

Are you learning about misrepresentation from the PHL Reps? I went back to your post and retract my statement about your accuracy, especially since you were not at the meeting with your "naysayer" friends.

Come to think of it, since I attend virtually every MEC meeting, I do not ever remember you attending any MEC meeting. What's wrong...are you too busy?

Regards,

USA320Pilot

P.S. BoeingBoy, it's too bad your side of the MEC no longer has the roll call. Guess what? The ALPA constitution and by-laws requires after a new contract is signed, or a major LOA, that the Negotiating Committee has to be changed. Guess what is going to happen?

 

[usairways_vote_NO]

BoeingBoy:

I initially skimmed over your post regarding Lakefield's meeting and now I will retract my earlier comments.

[post="255524"][/post]​

It too late you liar. You were caught plain and simple. You are a liar and the rest of your post was trying to remove attention and cover up the lies.

You make me sick

 

[mlt]

Jim,
Your post regarding what was said at the ALPA meeting was very similar to the US320 pilot's post. The captain did leave out the exact number of airplanes that might be parked and the comment regarding the employees having a 'sense of entitlement'.

Do you think his CCY and MEC buddies are coming down on him for posting what was said in a private meeting on an internet message board? The spin machine must be in high gear right about now.
mlt

 

[700UW]

There he goes again, attacking the PHL reps, you know posting false information about someone on the internet is considered defamation of charecter and/or libel. And if they were sick it is none of your business by law.

Must suck to be jealous of people that can get elected to hold office and not be a one-time proxy holder.

 

[USA320Pilot]

Mlt:

Lakefield's comments about airplanes being parked was "tongue and cheek" and was a wild example of something that could be done. Even the PHL Reps understood that is not the plan, as of yet.

By the way, were you at the meeting?

Regards,

USA320Pilot

 

[usairways_vote_NO]

USA320Pilot

[post="255529"][/post]​

Answer the question were you at one time banished or somehow reprimanded by ALPA? I want the truth.

 

[700UW]

UVN,

Lookie here:

MEC Update

 

[BoeingBoy]

I went back and read your other post, taken from the Council 41 letter, which I did not see until after I saw your comments.

[post="255524"][/post]​

Translation: The comments were accurate till you found out who wrote them.

Once again these Reps selectively picked points from the discussion, paraphrased, and most likely purposely left out other important points that paint a fare different picture.

[post="255524"][/post]​

Translation: See above

But, what's new concerning the PHL Reps who all 3 combined flew just one trip in November and December. I guess there was an ALPA epidemic in PHL.

[post="255524"][/post]​

Translation: As usual, you can't deal with a different point of view without resorting to personal attacks.

Are you learning about misrepresentation from the PHL Reps? I went back to your post and retract my statement about your accuracy, especially since you were not at the meeting with your "naysayer" friends.

[post="255524"][/post]​

Translation: ditto

Come to think of it, since I attend virtually every MEC meeting, I do not ever remember you attending any MEC meeting. What's wrong...are you too busy?

[post="255524"][/post]​

Translation: ditto

Regards,

[post="255524"][/post]​

Really?

P.S. BoeingBoy, it's too bad your side of the MEC no longer has the roll call.

[post="255524"][/post]​

Considering the likely result, I have a lot less time to live with those results than you do. Enjoy reaping what you sow.

Guess what? The ALPA constitution and by-laws requires after a new contract is signed, or a major LOA, that the Negotiating Committee has to be changed. Guess what is going to happen?

[post="255524"][/post]​

Let me guess. You and your pals won't be wearing sackcloth or wailing and gnashing teeth over the unfairness of it all like you did last time it was changed - following a major LOA, I might add. Have I got that about right?

You really do make this entirely too easy.....

Jim

 

[mlt]

US320 Pilot,
I believe you wrote the following on March 11. Where is the tongue in cheek statement?


• Lakefield does not like to pull aircraft from the fleet plan or shut down routes. However, he must preserve cash and save as many jobs as possible.

 

[TheLarkAscending]

The Reply button carries its own stigma. It can make you look foolish when you don't want to. Be careful when using this feature that what you are saying accurately represents what you want said. Remember, "eating one's words" can live with you for a long time in the future.

Now corporate leaders are holding important meetings just to express tongue-in-cheek consequences? Fascinating.

Fish in a barrel, anyone?

 

[usairways_vote_NO]

UVN,

Lookie here:

MEC Update

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Thanks 700

Item 1. Today the Charlotte Observer published an anti-union editorial from one of our pilots, titled "Unions can Sink US Airways," that aggressively promotes management’s objectives on achieving concessions from other labor groups. The editorial goes so far as to suggest that the CWA union leadership, who represent customer service employees, is misleading their members on their negotiating activity, and implies that management’s side of a dispute is more accurate.

This editorial does not in any way represent ALPA’s position, understanding, or sentiment, on other unions and their sincere efforts to represent their members. ALPA has received no reports, nor would it assign any value to reports, that suggest that any union is misleading their membership. The pilot author of the editorial holds no union position in ALPA. The anti-union public statements from one of our pilot-ALPA members is regrettable.

We urge all pilots to contact their reps or the Comm Center for accurate updates on restructuring negotiations and the activity of other unions. We also request that all pilots refrain from promoting any management anti-union propaganda or chastise other employees in the media. There is little to be gained from such activity other than embarrassment for yourself, your fellow pilots, US Airways, and ALPA.

 

[Harry Callahan]

Answer the question were you at one time banished or somehow reprimanded by ALPA? I want the truth.

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I can't wait to see this answer!

 

[mlt]

USA 320 Pilot wrote:

P.S. BoeingBoy, it's too bad your side of the MEC no longer has the roll call. Guess what? The ALPA constitution and by-laws requires after a new contract is signed, or a major LOA, that the Negotiating Committee has to be changed. Guess what is going to happen?

[post="255524"][/post]​

[/quote]


Since your junior bed wetting buddies will be on the negotiating team and don't like the reserve section of the contract, that they insisted on signing, they are now considering a rotating reserve for all pilots. Unbelievably self-serving!!!

 

[funguy2]

The comments that started this thread were made by the PHL Reps, who along 2. We must find equity investment, "or we liquidate," and we must find this equity "as soon as possible. There is "not a dime of equity money out there for the airline industry."

This is the number one point, and is not substantially different from willylowman's original post.

Also, USA320Pilot, does this mean you will stop telling us how Lakefield personnally informed you of the vast amount of exit financing and venture capitalists that are "out there"?