The Begining Of The End Of Us

[ramper_in_las]

US loosening it hold on PHL...a sign of the times

 

[firstamendment]

US loosening it hold on PHL...a sign of the times

[post="185926"][/post]​

Well, we've managed to hand
Cali, Florida, and BWI to you....why NOT PHL? :blink:

 

[ramper_in_las]

Well, we've managed to hand
Cali, Florida, and BWI to you....why NOT PHL?

hopefully US management will get a clue.... <_<

 

[N924PS]

US loosening it hold on PHL...a sign of the times

[post="185926"][/post]​

The "end" really started back in 1991 when the USAir vacated all the former PSA markets in the West and SWA just waltzed in and had an instant route system and great success.

Because of USAirways inability to compete owing to historically high costs, the "retreat" strategy continued as SWA marched into US's franchise markets in the Northeast and Florida.

Even with one bankruptcy under their belt and the enormous financial contributuions by Labor at U, the CASM is still above 10cents. Southwest's is edging up as it's labor costs are increasing but still has a significant edge on U and other Legacy carriers.

So PHL is really no surprise as SWA cherry picks USAirways markets once again.

 

[wnbubbleboy]

The "end" really started back in 1991 when the USAir vacated all the former PSA markets in the West and SWA just waltzed in and had an instant route system and great success.

Because of USAirways inability to compete owing to historically high costs, the "retreat" strategy continued as SWA marched into US's franchise markets in the Northeast and Florida.

Even with one bankruptcy under their belt and the enormous financial contributuions by Labor at U, the CASM is still above 10cents. Southwest's is edging up as it's labor costs are increasing but still has a significant edge on U and other Legacy carriers.

So PHL is really no surprise as SWA cherry picks USAirways markets once again.

[post="186302"][/post]​

The Usairways managment has done wonders for us here at WN. Maybe Herb has some back end deal with them.

 

[JetClipper]

The "end" really started back in 1991 when the USAir vacated all the former PSA markets in the West and SWA just waltzed in and had an instant route system and great success.

Because of USAirways inability to compete owing to historically high costs, the "retreat" strategy continued as SWA marched into US's franchise markets in the Northeast and Florida.

Even with one bankruptcy under their belt and the enormous financial contributuions by Labor at U, the CASM is still above 10cents. Southwest's is edging up as it's labor costs are increasing but still has a significant edge on U and other Legacy carriers.

So PHL is really no surprise as SWA cherry picks USAirways markets once again.

I was really sad (and not just a little ticked-off) to see AA and US buy and subsequently dismantle AirCal and PSA, respectively. Both were great operations that did a good job serving the west coast. To have these clueless majors buy airlines in areas where they had no experience operating, then close shop when they finally figured it out, did not help anyone (except, perhaps, WN).

 

[mga707]

I was really sad (and not just a little ticked-off) to see AA and US buy and subsequently dismantle AirCal and PSA, respectively. Both were great operations that did a good job serving the west coast.

[post="193790"][/post]​

But the topper was AA having an acute attack of deja vu and doing nearly the EXACT same thing again, a dozen years later, with Reno!

 

[TheLazarusman]

... SWA marched into US's franchise markets in the Northeast and Florida.

[post="186302"][/post]​

Thanks again, Randy Malin. For those of you who don't know him, Randy Malin worked for AA. AA asked him to secretly "leave AA" and seek employment elsewhere in the industry. Randy came to work for US. He took over overseeing the Florida Shuttle which he soon informed the company was a money sucking pig that was absolutely worthless. So we pulled out of Florida. Soon after Randy left US and magically reappeared at AA. AA went balls to the wall into the Florida market and things haven't been the same since. What AA didn't get in the Florida market was picked up quite nicely by SW. And, of course, US was left sitting with their thumb up their a*@s*@s ; out in the cold.

 

[usfliboi]

Somes continued glee, i assure you will come back to bite. Soon, swa will have a genuine level playing field. With reduced cost and lower casm by us and others, swa day is a coming. Prepare, it wil be your tuern soon enough.

 

[WNjetdoc]

Somes continued glee, i assure you will come back to bite. Soon, swa will have a genuine level playing field. With reduced cost and lower casm by us and others, swa day is a coming. Prepare, it wil be your tuern soon enough.

[post="194546"][/post]​

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[firstamendment]

The Usairways managment has done wonders for us here at WN. Maybe Herb has some back end deal with them.

[post="193759"][/post]​

You know, Bubbleboy, that really isn't funny. :down:

 

[ramper_in_las]

Somes continued glee, i assure you will come back to bite. Soon, swa will have a genuine level playing field. With reduced cost and lower casm by us and others, swa day is a coming. Prepare, it wil be your tuern soon enough.

It isn't that we have glee and i know everyone of us at WN feel bad for what you guys at US, AA, DL are going through. But lets look back 34 years at WN's inception. Who gave us a chance, nobody. Who fought us every step of the way, all of you. This is our Southwest "fighting" Spirit. We have stood toe to toe with all of you and have become sucessful at what we do. Our business plan is not secret. Its all about cash flow. I am truly sorry for what labor employees are going through but its not your fault. Its your greedy managment that is only looking out for themselves and not you and your families. As for preparing we have done that for 34 years and that speaks for itself.

 

[ramper_in_las]

"Airline companies that avoided layoffs and invested in preserving relationships---by maintaining commitments to employees and their relationships to the company---showed more resiliency than those that violated contractual commitments, instituted layoffs and cancelled severance benefits," Cameron said. "By foregoing downsizing, these companies created coping resources that enabled their employees to respond cohesively to the crisis in innovative ways and allowed organizational performance to return more quickly to pre-crisis levels."

source newswise.com
study done by michigan university

 

[E-TRONS]

What a freakin concept........eh???? I guess they don't teach this philosophy at MIT and Wharton <_< .

How about doing a study on why the airline industry has so few good airline ceo's??

LOSERS: Wolf, Seigel, Lorenzo, Icahn, Greenwald.

WINNERS: Bethune, Kelleher...................

 

[wnbubbleboy]

You know, Bubbleboy, that really isn't funny. :down:

[post="195052"][/post]​

I apologize if you didn't find it funny. My humor is lost on many people especially my wife.

With that being said, I was responding to the concept that WN "cherry picks". Taking a market isn't making a profit for one airline and turning it into a profitable market for us is not "cherry picking" its good business. How is that our fault?

How many Southwest copy cat airlines were out there that have come and gone? Which is the opposite take a successful concept and screwing it up.