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Just to play Devils Advocate== there IS smoke around him, tooArtTang said:jimntx writes:
President -- Steven Ellis. This is a "hold my nose" vote. I have a problem with his listing JD after his name. I think it misleading. Having a law degree does not make you a lawyer. You have to pass some state's bar exam and be licensed to practice law in order to be a lawyer. I have a BA in English Literature, but that don't make me Shakespeare. However, some people I respect are voting for him; so, I am deferring to their opinions.
I write:
Not looking for an argument here, but just to clear this matter up: If you successfully pass the requirements of a law school you possess the title of JD. Similarly, if you successfully pass the requirements of a doctoral program, you have the title of PhD. It is true that just because you have JD after your name does not mean you are a practicing attorney. Similarly, just because you have a PhD after your name does not mean you are a professor at a university. Nevertheless, the title is yours! However, Steven Ellis has never claimed to be a practicing attorney. After a certain group of mudslingers attempted to create a scandal about the matter, Steven further clarified his background on his website. There should be no confusion. If anyone is confused by the title JD it is not because of Steven but because of incorrect assumptions drawn from his appropriate title.
I have known Steven for over 12 years. He is honest, tempered, and highly intelligent. Additionally, to his credit, he has chosen to remain above the muck and mire in which his opponents love to bask. I will vote for him without reservation.
Art Tang
MIA
It goes way beyond merely placing a JD after his name. On his web site, he claims to have provided services to clients which only licensed lawyers are allowed to perform. I don't care if those were rendered in Australia or on the Moon or Mars.ArtTang said:...or that he claimed to practice law because he places the earned title of JD by his name.
:down: I agree, you are as responsible for mud-slinging, as well. Lee is not the onlyRoyal Ambassador said:I was under the impression that posting personal attacks was against the rules of these forums.ArtTang said:Lee Price,
Is this you or the person you claim to have stolen your yahoo passcode who wrote the last message about Steven? It is difficult to tell if it is you or your other personality. The mudslinging and innuendo sure reflect your modus operandi, but one never knows after your disclaimers of the psychotic messages you posted on the 4M.
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