The Abortion Issue:

[keeptheodds]

Would you be happy with that?

I would. A bonus would be first trimester limits.

 

[Dog Wonder]

Now you're a doctor?

That boy might get better, but he'll never be well.

 

[delldude]

Title X remake?

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/22/planned-parenthood-funding-trump-1164038

 

[Dog Wonder]

The involuntary celibates don't need abstinence education, women teach it to them daily.

 

[KCFlyer]

I would. A bonus would be first trimester limits.

You do realize that by stopping Medicaid payments, PP will still be getting ALL of the money it currently gets from Title X? And I oppose limits for the reasons I posted in my "word salad".

 

[KCFlyer]

The involuntary celibates don't need abstinence education, women teach it to them daily.

Abstinence works right up the point where it doesn't.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

But...let's say you guys win...No more federal money to Planned Parenthood. Zero. Zip. Nada. A bunch of people now have to exercise "personal responsibility".

Sounds good to me. Let's do it.

Which one of them exercised less personal responsibility? Because it seems that that argument gets put on the WOMAN'S shoulders.

Tell that to a single father raising a child on his own.

But what if it's your SON that is the baby daddy? What if it's your SON that pressured and pushed and coerced a woman to have sex with HIM...and he wouldn't even buy a damn condom? Does HE bear any responsibility?

Sure he does but in your sick world he possesses no rights.

Funny how you Democrats, the self appointed champions of civil rights and equality, place no value on the baby's rights, the father's rights, or the right of the taxpayers not to get stuck with the bill.

How about she carry the baby to term and give it to HIM to raise. Let HIM figure out how to provide food, shelter and health care AND pay for daycare so he can go to work.

That is exactly what my uncle did.

Or...maybe turn to YOU to help pay for your grandchild's needs. Do you give HIM another "personal responsibility" speech?

Yes. Yes I do.

He needs to understand that while help is available the expectation is he needs to solve his own problems.

That's call life.

"Help" does not mean "dependency" and forcing me to pay on someone else's behalf with no benefit to me just so a socialist can sell his agenda is theft.

7.6 MILLION abortions is beyond unreasonable. At that rate this goes beyond the scope of personal responsibility and into carelessness. But hey, as long as someone else is paying for it no big deal right? Right?

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

Better yet call them yourself.

His conditioning won't allow him to expose himself to anything that does not fit the narrative.

Why do you democrats always ignore the facts that don’t go along with your narrative?

Isn't it obvious? They are socially engineered to. The Democrats simply can't tolerate independent thinking. That is the greatest threat to their agenda. That's why they have put so much effort into subjugating the media and education system. That is why they try to debase any sort of standards such as morals, religion, culture, traditions, even gender.

So either take responsibility for the child or go get your abortion within the first trimester and pay for it yourself.

That goes against the Democrat way of socializing the cost of stupidity.

Why should the federal government have to pay hundreds of millions if dollars for your indescrtions? It makes no sense.

No, see that is where you are wrong. To a Democrat it makes perfect sense. You see they have found a way to debase the value of life to such a degree that the citizens of the United States are willing to abort 2.28 percent of the population. Can you think of any exercise of control beyond that?

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

I love your diatribe on creative billing KCFlyer.

Let me introduce you to Obamacare:

Now please, share more of your opinions about "creative billing".

After all, the rules are so simplified, so easy to follow and enforce.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

"I don't believe in abortion as a form of birth control".

You want to stop Medicaid from paying for abortions? Fine...I'm right beside you.

I can tell.

These diatribes you keep going on reinforce your claims.

This one is my favorite.

Actually...it's pretty much the same as yours, except that his proposes killing them all BEFORE they are born. You prefer to let them die AFTER.

The stupidity and lack of reality in that statement pretty much says it all doesn't it?

I mean, I have to really hand it to you KCFlyer, that is a prime example of liberals talent for the absurd and fantastic when someone challenges their indefensible narrative. Well done.

What's the pro life solution to deal with the consequences?

The parents, as it should be.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

There is a person that works at the "abortion mill" here in Tulsa.

The Pro Life protesters have named her the "Dancing Deathscort".

She is around 50 years old and dances in front of the clinic while blasting loud music for the sole purpose of agitating Pro Life protesters along with her police escort Captain Karen Tipler who also displays her dance moves.

It has not escaped me they chose Captain Karen Tipler, who is a black female police officer. After all if anything went down at the abortion clinic (besides state sanctioned murder of course) you can bet the media would use race and gender to spin it as much as possible. Gotta cover all those bases right?

Instead of acting as a professional civil servant for the city of Tulsa and doing what she can to de-escalate a tense situation to keep law and order she is taunting people exercising their constitutional rights.

This "deathscort" is no better than that annoying kid who picks a fight with someone then hides behind their "big brother" for protection.

So tell me KCFlyer, how would you feel if your tax dollars were being used to pay a police officer to dance like an idiot in front of an abortion clinic in an attempt to marginalize, debase, and demoralize the tax payers?

As far as I am concerned these 2 fools are a snapshot of typical leftist behavior.

 

[Dog Wonder]

Some people aren't sleeping well these days.

 

[Zom JFK]

You do realize that by stopping Medicaid payments, PP will still be getting ALL of the money it currently gets from Title X? And I oppose limits for the reasons I posted in my "word salad".

you really support this KC? You really think there is ANY justification for a healthy living baby being literally torn to pieces? Future generations will surely look back at this as being a holocaust.

 

[KCFlyer]

you really support this KC? You really think there is ANY justification for a healthy living baby being literally torn to pieces? Future generations will surely look back at this as being a holocaust.

If you watch at the end of the good doctors video, you will hear him say something that he has ignored during most of his presentation. At the 3:45 mark he utters the words "unless you have been thru it yourself you have no idea whatsoever". I wish they would have asked the good doctor how many of the second trimester abortions he performed were because the woman decided to use it as a form of birth control. my guess is - none.

A woman has a good idea she's pregnant after she misses her first period. If she decides to abort as a form of birth control...this is when it happens. When it gets to the second trimester, they are usually performed for far different reasons. Reasons that, according to the good doctor "unless you have been thru it yourself, you have no idea whatsoever" about why. I've explained it in "word salad that fits my narrative". But unlike you...unlike LaLa, unlike pancake...I HAVE been thru it myself. I had said that I wouldn't wish what my wife and I went thru on my worst enemy. I've already said that I don't believe in abortion as a form of birth control. But the calls to defund planned parenthood will result in MORE pregnancies and MORE abortions because you all want to throw out the baby with the bathwater (no pun intended).

But again...in the words of the doctor from YOUR post..."unless you have been thru it yourself, you have no idea whatsoever".

 

[KCFlyer]

I love your diatribe on creative billing KCFlyer.

Let me introduce you to Obamacare:

Now please, share more of your opinions about "creative billing".

After all, the rules are so simplified, so easy to follow and enforce.

You have inadvertantly proven my point. You want to ban abortions, but when someone points out that some are medically necessary, you pop in the 'except in the case of' . Except that there are many cases of. And each case of has to be documented. Every "in case of" has to be accounted for. And what happens is that your little bill grows. And even then...some situation is going to come up that doesn't fit what you all wrote down. So don't write it down. Don't let Medicaid pay for abortions. For any reason. Period. Then your government is out of the abortion business. Keep them legal. Let God decide if the woman made the right choice or not.