Saudis give nod to Israeli raid on Iran

[Garfield1966]

Iran is not in the Middle East Iran is in Central Eurasia; Also, Iranians are not Ayrabs, they are Persians.
Please! There is a big difference between Egypt and Palestine. Egypt lost a bunch of territory during the 1967 war. It was a matter of national pride to get it back. I doubt if the Zionists had taken over Egypt and created their Zionist state there, that Sadat would have went along with the Camp David Accord. Israel was promissed more U.S. military and economic aid to go to the "peace table."

People consider Iran as part of the ME. People consider Iranians as Arab. Get over your self. Regardless of why Egypt did what they did, they came to the table and they signed a peace deal with Israel. Israel has and will get what ever they need from the US. They are the only reliable ally we have in the area. Back then, Israel was our only reliable way to test weapon system in live fire situations. The US got a lot of feed back on how to improve the weapon systems from Israel.

What if pigs flew. Israel did not go to Cairo, they stopped at the Suez. They played the game perfectly.

If the Palestinians want their own country, they should follow Egypt's lead. Stop the fighting and come to the table. I also have to ask why no other country in the ME has volunteered to take in these poor souls? Seems to me there is more propaganda value for the ME to have them homeless than safe. BTW, is all of Palestine under Israeli control? I could have sworn some of the land was under Jordanian, Syrian control. Why is no one knocking on their door?

 

[nuclearfission]

People consider Iran as part of the ME. People consider Iranians as Arab. Get over your self. Regardless of why Egypt did what they did, they came to the table and they signed a peace deal with Israel. Israel has and will get what ever they need from the US. They are the only reliable ally we have in the area. Back then, Israel was our only reliable way to test weapon system in live fire situations. The US got a lot of feed back on how to improve the weapon systems from Israel.

What if pigs flew. Israel did not go to Cairo, they stopped at the Suez. They played the game perfectly.

If the Palestinians want their own country, they should follow Egypt's lead. Stop the fighting and come to the table. I also have to ask why no other country in the ME has volunteered to take in these poor souls? Seems to me there is more propaganda value for the ME to have them homeless than safe. BTW, is all of Palestine under Israeli control? I could have sworn some of the land was under Jordanian, Syrian control. Why is no one knocking on their door?

Everyone needs to get a serious reality check when it comes to the "Palestinians"...Israel is Protecting the lands they won through war, regardless of how you may feel about war. Through over 2,000 + years of Muslims fighting each other over ME territory, NO ONE wanted the so-called "Palestinians". They have been the "black sheep" of the Middle East for centuries.

 

[Ed Norton]

People consider Iran as part of the ME. People consider Iranians as Arab. Get over your self. Regardless of why Egypt did what they did, they came to the table and they signed a peace deal with Israel. Israel has and will get what ever they need from the US. They are the only reliable ally we have in the area. Back then, Israel was our only reliable way to test weapon system in live fire situations. The US got a lot of feed back on how to improve the weapon systems from Israel.

What if pigs flew. Israel did not go to Cairo, they stopped at the Suez. They played the game perfectly.

If the Palestinians want their own country, they should follow Egypt's lead. Stop the fighting and come to the table. I also have to ask why no other country in the ME has volunteered to take in these poor souls? Seems to me there is more propaganda value for the ME to have them homeless than safe. BTW, is all of Palestine under Israeli control? I could have sworn some of the land was under Jordanian, Syrian control. Why is no one knocking on their door?

How asinine! Afghanistan is in the Middle East too, right? So is India. Indians wear those funny towels around their heads, right? You go tell an Iranian he's an Arab, or vice versa. They don't even speak the same language! You probably think all people south of the Rio Grande eat tacos and are Mexican!

 

[Garfield1966]

I never said I believed it. Aside from that, it is easier to speaking generalities. Get over your self.

 

[Ed Norton]

I never said I believed it. Aside from that, it is easier to speaking generalities. Get over your self.

Get your facts straight if you're going to challenge someone, kitty.

Here's a few words of wisdom from Psalm 33 the U.S. and its rabid Zionist Pit Bull should heed:

....No king is saved by the size of his army;
no warrior escapes by his great strength.

A horse is a vain hope for deliverance;
despite all its great strength it cannot save.

But the eyes of the LORD are on those who fear him,
on those whose hope is in his unfailing love,

to deliver them from death
and keep them alive in famine.

We wait in hope for the LORD;
he is our help and our shield.

In him our hearts rejoice,
for we trust in his holy name. ...

 

[Garfield1966]

First of all I do not read fairy tales. Second, most people think of the ME as a large area including Iran. Iraq etc. so it is just easier to refer to it that way rather then to give a history/geography lesson. Third, whether Iranians are Arab or not and whether or not they are in the ME had nothing to do with the premise if my argument.

 

[dapoes]

Iran is not in the Middle East Iran

Maybe you can tell the rest of the world they are wrong.

 

[Garfield1966]

Iran is not in the Middle East Iran is in Central Eurasia; Also, Iranians are not Ayrabs, they are Persians.

I did a little hunting around and it looks like others are just as confused.


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And the list goes on. General consensus is that Iran/Iraq are part of the ME when people talk about the ME. Far easier than talking about "Eur-Asia".

As far as "Arab" is concerned that seems to be open for discussion as well. The term 'Arab' sems to be a generic term similar to 'Christian'. Baptists and Lutherans are considered Christian.

 

[nuclearfission]

I did a little hunting around and it looks like others are just as confused.


World Atlas

ME Countries at a glance

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And the list goes on. General consensus is that Iran/Iraq are part of the ME when people talk about the ME. Far easier than talking about "Eur-Asia".

As far as "Arab" is concerned that seems to be open for discussion as well. The term 'Arab' sems to be a generic term similar to 'Christian'. Baptists and Lutherans are considered Christian.

I think Mr. Ed may be busy gathering more "factual" information

Gar, your point is well understood and taken as you wrote it. Far easier to speak in generalities than to go into a whole bunch of history lessons here! We start going into the "psycological impacts" of why???..... why are they Muslim?.....why are we Americans?........we won't get anywhere!!

 

[Ed Norton]

I think Mr. Ed may be busy gathering more "factual" information

Gar, your point is well understood and taken as you wrote it. Far easier to speak in generalities than to go into a whole bunch of history lessons here! We start going into the "psycological impacts" of why???..... why are they Muslim?.....why are we Americans?........we won't get anywhere!!

OK. You win. Iranians are Arabs and Arabs are Iranians. Iranians speak Arabic, not Farsi. Happy? They all ride cammels and there's sand everywhere.
Israel is our friend: Israeli spying on U.S. Say it ain't so!
Yes, I know...this is normal. Countries always spy on each other.

 

[Ed Norton]

First of all I do not read fairy tales. Second, most people think of the ME as a large area including Iran. Iraq etc. so it is just easier to refer to it that way rather then to give a history/geography lesson. Third, whether Iranians are Arab or not and whether or not they are in the ME had nothing to do with the premise if my argument.

Fairy tales? What fairy tales are those? Would that be Bible scripture? That book from which ALL western civilization bases its laws upon?
I suppose the Darwin is more to your liking? The same Darwin who got his ideas from his eugenecists cousin Francis Galton?
How about the fairy tale that 4 high jacked airplanes flew around for 45 minutes in some of the worlds most secure airspace without a single fighter being able to intercept them? All this done by a boogey man in a cave?

 

[delldude]

I did a little hunting around and it looks like others are just as confused.


World Atlas

ME Countries at a glance

About

And the list goes on. General consensus is that Iran/Iraq are part of the ME when people talk about the ME. Far easier than talking about "Eur-Asia".

As far as "Arab" is concerned that seems to be open for discussion as well. The term 'Arab' sems to be a generic term similar to 'Christian'. Baptists and Lutherans are considered Christian.

Hey Gar.......you're right on.

Here's the definative source:

This Israeli thing and Obama......I read a book once...a fairy tale book as a matter of fact that said once upon a time a country would guarantee to protect Israel for some seven year period....This Iran thing is going to culminate that.

Pigs fly when fairy tales become real.......

Ed...I enjoyed your historical thing on Israeli spying....

They do it to survive.

 

[Garfield1966]

OK. You win. Iranians are Arabs and Arabs are Iranians. Iranians speak Arabic, not Farsi. Happy?

Who speaks 'European'? The term Arab is used in a similar fashion as American, Asian, European.... etc.

They all ride cammels and there's sand everywhere.

Not sure what that has to do with any thing.

Israel is our friend: Israeli spying on U.S. Say it ain't so!

Has the US ever spied on it's allies?

Yes, I know...this is normal. Countries always spy on each other.

Duh!! You just figured this out?

Fairy tales? What fairy tales are those? Would that be Bible scripture?

Yes, that would be the one.

That book from which ALL western civilization bases its laws upon?

Why is god not mentioned in the COTUS or US law books? Just because a majority of the white men who founded the country were raised under some form of christianity does not mean that they based the country on christianity. There are quite a few quotes from the founders that would indicate that they had a very 'loose' belief of religion.

How about the fairy tale that 4 high jacked airplanes flew around for 45 minutes in some of the worlds most secure airspace without a single fighter being able to intercept them?

Huh? Flt AA11 took off at 07:59 and impact took place at 08:39. No one had any idea what was going on for a god portion of the flight. So at best, there was 10 or 15 min to figure out what the hell was going on and take action. Not like we have planes flying in to buildings every day.

Secure air space? That's like saying our borders and ports are secure. Te only secure space is a bubble over the Pentagon and the WH. The rest of it is so open you could fly an elephant around and no one would no.

 

[delldude]

Why is god not mentioned in the COTUS or US law books? Just because a majority of the white men who founded the country were raised under some form of christianity does not mean that they based the country on christianity. There are quite a few quotes from the founders that would indicate that they had a very 'loose' belief of religion.

Because the Founders wanted a separation of Church and State not State endorsed religion.

But they founded our country on a firm belief in a Creator.

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator :unsure: with certain unalienable Rights

 

[777 fixer]

Its time for the arm chair warrior/"christian soldiers" cheerleaders of the Zionist state to come out in force.
Never mind all the innocents that will be butchered. Remember, those Iranain "green" revolutionaries which you were so ardently pulling for (before the death of Michael Jackson distracted you away), will probably be amongst those killed.
This is the same "Zionist" State which Ahmadinejad has called for the removal from the map of the Middle East. Zionism is not the Jewish religion or the Jewish "people". Zionism is a white European philosophy which claims the Jewish race (no such thing) is superior, and justifies the murder of brown people living in Palestine. The Zionist state is the rabid Pit Bull of the U.S. military industrial complex.

"Zionism/Zionist" is a code word bigots use for Jew whether their last name is Ahmadinejad or Duke. Do you think people like Ahmadinejad are going to try and seperate "Zionists" from "non-Zionist" if he decided one day to chuck a nuke in their direction?

What I find funny is that when you ask people if the words Hama, Syria mean anything you get a blank stare. Ask them about Gaza and the West Bank they know all about it.