Rosy outlook for AA

[FrugalFlyerv2.0]

BTW, I am honored that 9 people so hate reading my post about AA's strategic weaknesses even though it was taken directly from a published article.
 
If the fact that published authors are tracking along with what I have said here for years is what gets people wound up, I am truly honored to have broken the ground on these issues months, if not years ago. 
 
the WHOLE TRUTH can be painful, can't it?

 
Virtue would go far if vanity did not keep it company.

 

[WorldTraveler]

If vanity or virtue is worth 9 negative points, then it says more about the participants of this board than me.
 
I have said that AA has faced these same issues for years.  I find it honoring that someone who gets a published column is highlighting the same issues.

 

[traderjake]

the WHOLE TRUTH can be painful, can't it?

 
Everyone has an opinion, just because you found one that matches your's doesn't make it the Holy Grail. 
 
In case you haven't figured it out people vote you down because you're a total Delta schill.

 

[robbedagain]

just fyi   for the month of jan alone  the new AA beat delta in 2 categories   ontime and bags  thus the employees are getting 100

 

[dfw gen]

im sure someone will be here shortly with a 12 page thesis on why that makes no difference to delta ruling the world....

 

[Deleted member 14439]

gain sharing???????????????????????????????????????????????

 

[Kev3188]

just fyi   for the month of jan alone  the new AA beat delta in 2 categories   ontime and bags  thus the employees are getting 100

Nice! Well done.

We (DL) didn't make our metrics for Jan., so no extra dough for us...

 

[robbedagain]

kev  does dl give you all incentives similar to that for those numbers if they win in those categories

 

[MetalMover]

im sure someone will be here shortly with a 12 page thesis on why that makes no difference to delta ruling the world....

Yes, and Delta will probably head to the courts to file a lawsuit demanding a recount...It just can't be that DL was bested in anything.
 
That is, of course, after Delta files the lawsuit regarding the LGA/DCA slots.

 

[Kev3188]

kev  does dl give you all incentives similar to that for those numbers if they win in those categories

We can earn up to $100/mo. if we beat goals set for baggage, ontime, and completion factor. We can either beat our internal goals, or be be in the top 2 compared to other carriers.

 

[robbedagain]

thnks kev  that's sounds good

 

[WorldTraveler]

 
Everyone has an opinion, just because you found one that matches your's doesn't make it the Holy Grail. 
 
In case you haven't figured it out people vote you down because you're a total Delta schill.

 
 
 no, it really comes down to some people being willing to admit that someone else really might do things better than you. 
 
I have battled an entrenched mindset AArrogance among AAers that they can AAdmit no wrong that spans 10 years of my interaction on aviation chat forums.
 
No other carrier has employees who are so willing to deny the truth that is obvious for everyone else to see in order to deny admitting reality. 
 
I am loyal to DL, for sure.  But there are precious few people here who are willing to admit that DL is really running an outstanding business compared to practically any other airline in the US, and perhaps the world, and certainly among DL's network airline peers.
 
Does that mean it will always stay that way?  No.
 
But DL has done an outstanding job of turning their airline around and of becoming a leader in the industry that is perhaps farther out front of its peers as has existed among any network airline since deregulation.
 
DL is creating change and the rest of the industry is trying to react.   
 
 
I said after the AA-US merger that I am willing to give AA an opportunity to demonstrate whether it can succeed and thrive like other carriers.
 
But there is no way that I am going to sit by and accept rosy, pie in the sky attributes about AA by forgetting the reality of the business any more than I am willing to ask anyone else to do that for DL.
 
You are more than free to speak honestly and candidly about where DL is truly missing it - not the occasional operational incident that is the norm for an airline that operates thousands of flights per day....

just fyi   for the month of jan alone  the new AA beat delta in 2 categories   ontime and bags  thus the employees are getting 100

 
and, IIRC, AA cancelled more flights than DL during the month and I'm not even sure that the stats include the consolidated AA/US.  Most stats are and will be reported separately for quite some time.
 
Further, one month doesn't a trend make.  And if new AA really does deliver operational excellence and financial strength, then it will translate very quickly into a much higher stock price and increased revenues.
 
Right now, AA is in the same post-merger euphoria that every other airline has been in.  There is nothing wrong with having hope for the future.
 
But failing to recognize there are true strategic challenges which AA has to face and which I have talked about is simply setting yourselves up to allow me to point out that what I have said is real.
 
Despite years of me pointing out, no one has yet to point that any other network/legacy carrier has faced the string of strategic challenges that AA faces over the next year - as highlighted by me and in the article - plus others such as increased competitive growth in Latin America and the Pacific.
 
if it makes you feel empowered to hit the red button, go for it.
 
I racked up hundreds of negative points in discussions about AA's Pacific losses - and yet what I said has been validated multiple times from DOT data and in other internet discussions and validated by AA's own cutbacks exactly where I have said AA has been weak - such as NYC and Chicago to Japan.
 
Until someone says that this forum is no longer a place for the valid discussion of solid airline strategic issues, I will raise them.  Those that can participate are free to do so; those that want to throw tomatoes and lift denials will be the ones that will be shown to be unable to participate accurately in these discussions. 

 

[robbedagain]

aa/us did not cancel more flights than any other carrier due to weather or mtc etc.  yes its consolidated from the info I have seen.   most of us are not in denial in any way     its just that most of us sees what we see bec of the fact most of us are in or have been in the airline industry and we see how it is  and in other cases lived it  or living thru it etc....   bottom line is this   AA report from DOT/DOJ shows just for JAN alone that we BEAT DELTA in 2 of the 3 categories   while its a good start   I would like to see it continue   whether or not it does remains to be seen

 

[WorldTraveler]

there is a published article that showed the number of flights cancelled by each of the carriers.  UA was worst, AA/US was in the middle, and DL had the lowest. 
 
let's be clear that I have no problems whatsoever if AA succeeds... but one data point doesn't change the fact that AA has underperformed the industry average operationally for a number of years.  US has done a pretty good job of running operationally.
 
I am confident that US leadership will provide the leadership to move AA up the rankings.
 
Despite what some want to believe, winning is not an exclusive right.  If multiple airlines can do it all at the same time, it is more than fine with me. 

 

[swamt]

And where is SWA on said list??
 
Robbed what WT is celebrating about Delta is coming to  AA in time.  Look at how many years Delta has been out of BK, by this same time (actually less in my mind)  AA will clearly become the leader.  Delta is experiencing it now because they were the first of the legacies to do this round of BK's and mergers, therefore, once out and all the others were going thru it most the traveling public decided to go with Delta while all the other airlines go thru their BK's and messy mergers.  Once AA is out and up and running strong again and with better cost than Delta and others, WT will be much much more quiet.  Let him have his moment for now.
Yes WT, Delta was the best turn around story for the legacies (so far, that is) when it comes to mergers.  However Delta only had to deal with "one" union group to integrate.  SWA on the other hand, had 9 to 11 union groups to integrate and combine, and I must say it was done the fastest of any other airline out there.   And yes Delta has done a fantastic job of turning itself around, but it did take BK AND a merger in order to do it.