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delldude said:
Not hard to do with all those patriots patting Georgie on the back, eh?
The blood is on GWB hands. No one else.
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delldude said:
Not hard to do with all those patriots patting Georgie on the back, eh?
KCFlyer said:Eduador
Lichtenstein
Bulgaria
Costa Rica
Bali
New Guinea
All the world powerhouses.
777 fixer said:
Quickly? Bush had plenty of time to make up his mind on Iraq. The problem was he surrounded himself with sycophants and hacks who told him what he wanted to hear. And anyone who might of said otherwise was pushed aside.
KCFlyer said:Eduador
Lichtenstein
Bulgaria
Costa Rica
Bali
New Guinea
All the world powerhouses.
What's your excuse?southwind said:I'll give you this, you've got an excuse for "EVERYTHING"!
so we can say the blood from Isis is on Obama and no one else then777 fixer said:
The blood is on GWB hands. No one else.
delldude said:
Little reality check for trip seven:
A 1998 law passed by Congress and signed by President Bill Clinton authorized up to $97 million in military assistance to Iraqi opposition forces ‘to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein’ and ‘promote the emergence of a democratic government’. There was a considerable change inU.S. policy toward Iraqwhen George W. Bush took office in January 2001. A group of former democrats, who represented a more expansionist foreign policy than the traditional realist line of the Republican Party, gained a foothold in the party as early as in 1994.
When the House and the Senate passed the Iraq Liberation Act, it was clear what the U.S. intentions were in the case of Saddam. Bill Clinton made it Washington’s policy to get rid of this dictator. But even if individual actors or even groups and organizations inside the U.S. wanted this line of policy followed up by hard action, resorting to military confrontation depended on the structures and opportunities the system would allow.
When Bill Clinton was president, it would be very difficult to gather support for a war against Iraq, both abroad and in the U.S. Even though the world could be described as unipolar, and even though this gives the U.S. freedom of action in its foreign policy, engaging in war still requires some sort of acquiescence from its allies, so as not to hurt U.S. interests in the long run. Therefore, even if Bill Clinton wanted to invade, he did not have a window of opportunity to do so.
The 9/11 attacks opened up this window of opportunity for the new president, George W. Bush, even if the Iraqi dictator presumably did not comprehend this new U.S. leeway. There had of course been strife within the U.S. governmental apparatus, but after President Bush received a carte blanche from the Congress to go to war, the administration gathered around a single course of action.
Also, the U.S. had a history of not following through their policy to remove Saddam Hussein from power. In addition to the potential threat Iraq posed to the U.S., President Bush had to take into consideration the threat against U.S. allies in the region.
http://www.popularsocialscience.com/2012/10/25/why-did-the-united-states-invade-iraq-in-2003-2/
lol yea right keep telling yourself that the jv group Isis is all on the messiah obamaIfly2 said:ISIS was born in one of W's prison camps, nurtured by his handlers and matured under W's "protection"
Thanks George
KCFlyer said:
And maybe the blood would have been on Clintons hands. BUT...there was this blowjob that happened and anything that had to do with the middle east....you know, with guys like osama bin laden or Saddam Hussein...the GOP was screaming "wag the dog" and claimed that it was just an attempt to divert attention from the Lewinsky affair. Suddenly...Clinton laid the groundwork.
700UW said:So it's ok for Cheney to have outed a CIA agent as her husband rebuked the claims of the bush administration in regard to Iraq and uranium?
delldude said:
As he was getting the blowjob.
Never outed an active agent and you know it.
And found WMD's refuted the lie of Joe Wilson.
KCFlyer said:
I seem to recall that the country was doing pretty good from 93 to 2001....imagine how much more could have been done had Clinton been allowed to govern instead of dealing with Whitewater, Vince Fosters "murder", travelgate, troopergate, Paula Jones, Monica Lewinsky....
Oh...that program from Jimmy Carter....I'll never understand why someone who got a loan in 1978 waited until 2007 to default on it.delldude said:
93 to 2001 while your guys were forcing banks to take on toxic loans from people who never ever could repay them....Duh
Ma, the pots at boil.....
cltrat said:lol yea right keep telling yourself that the jv group Isis is all on the messiah obama