Republic Flts Shown As Mainline

[Light Years]

If you pull up the flight schedules on the website, all Express flights show up as US Airways Express and you can click to see who they are operated by (as airlines are required to do by law). The only exception to this are the "MAA" E170 flights which show as US Airways, as they are actually operated by US Airways.

The same rules apply to boarding passes- they must say the actual carrier operating the flight. Again, all Express carriers show up on the boarding pass, with the exception of the fictional MidAtlantic, those boarding passes say US Airways.

Now, how come when you pull up the flight schedules with Republic E170 flights (an example would be PHL-IND) the flights still show up as US AIRWAYS. No mention of Republic at all. In fact, if you look at the fact sheet about US Airways Express there is no mention of Republic there either.

So aren't they lieing to the public? They are saying these flights are operated by US Airways when in fact they are not. Surely this isn't right?

 

[totobird]

I've been trying to figure that one out myself. If Republic now has thier own operating certificate for the 170's then why are they not showing up on the res system as Republic flights ???????
Also why are mainline employees in PIT working the 170's if they are now considered Express ? Isn't this a violation of the Union contracts ?
Sounds suspect to me :unsure:

 

[700UW]

No violation of the ramp contracts, for example in EWR US use to do the ramp on FlyI.

In CLT mainline employees work MDA flight on the ramp.

 

[totobird]

It certainly is a violation of the contract 700UW.The reason CLT and PIT have worked the MDA flights up until now is because U held the operating certificate on those flights and now Republic has their own operating certificate.
Are your trying to say that in PIT it is okay for Mainline employees to unload and load the Express flights? Sorry to tell you but that IS a violation of the contract.
The same holds true for the 170's. They are now operated by an Express airline. Until the contract is amended to include the 170's it is a violtaion for Mainline to work them.
You better take a look at our fleet contract !!!!!!!!!

 

[700UW]

Explain to me how it is a violation of the ramp contract?

Show me where in the fleet contract it specifies aircraft type?
Wait, you can't because there is no such clause.

At many mainline stations employees handle MDA, US and other express carriers.

And at some stations we even work other airlines flights.

There is nothing in the scope language of the Fleet contract that prevents US from having its fleet service work other carriers, it is a violation if other rampers from another company works a mainline flight were mainline rampers are.

Funny during the spring US fleet service unloaded a BA 777 in CLT, that is not a contract violation.

Take the time and read the contract, there is no violation if mainline works an express flight, MDA flies into C6 in CLT and mainline works it all the time, they have to work it is is part of their job.

In EWR US worked Indy Air, no contract violation, it even saved some jobs on the ramp.

 

[USFlyer]

This is a usairways.com bug. The developers need to change the flight number range for Express flights. This happens all the time. For months, for example, UA codeshares were showing as "US Airways Shuttle" flights.

 

[totobird]

700UW you are so far off base I don't know why I am even responding.
PIT is a Class A mainline city. NOT a mainline/express city.
Some of the smaller cities are and do handle the express flights. Buffalo for one is a prime example.
YOU my friend need to read our contract.
NEVER has an IAM member in PIT loaded or offloaded any of the Express aircraft. Another example....this October AmericaWest flights will be handled by our mainline in PIT. The reason being AA had the contract and it expires October 3rd. U mainline picked up the 2 flights. We have a written agreement to work those 2 flights and gladly will do so to save jobs.
The IAM has NO agreement to work the Republic Express 170's and until we do, it IS a violation of the contract in PIT !!!!!!!!!!!

 

[700UW]

Lets see CLT is a Class A city, yet MDA is worked by mainline fleet service, not express.

Please show me in your contract Article and Pargraph where it is a violation?

US can can contract its fleet service to work any a/c.

And why did you not answer any of the questions I asked of you?

Show me in your contract where it specifies what airline and what type of airplanes you will work?

Like I said you can't.

And the US Airways has a contract with America West to work their flights, not between America West and the IAM.

Prove to me with facts from your contract where it is a violation?

 

[totobird]

So are you telling me the mainline ramp in CLT load and off load the Express aricraft ?
MDA has been worked by mainline in PIT and CLT because U owned and operated these aircraft. I guess you have not heard the news that the 170's have been sold to Republic and they have been certified to operate them.
I would love to continue this debate but I have to go now and load mainline aircraft.

 

[Jonnyd]

According to the union reps in PHL it is not a violation. We spoke with them two days ago and they said it was legal, at least in the case of MDA ramp and CS working Republic flights. We are all IAM members, so I guess it has to be the same with mainline unloading express flights. Most of us don't like doing it but we really don't have a choice.

 

[700UW]

As a matter of fact mainline ramp in CLT use to work express.

It has nothing to do with certificate and who owns the a/c.

The company can have you work any flight, for example US Fleet worked a BA 777 earlier this year.

Like I said, show me in your contract where is states US has to own the plane you work?

Also, US Airways Group owns Piedmont and PSA.

I am asking you for the third time show me where in your contract that US cannot make you work express flights, charters or anyother airlines US chooses too.

 

[flyin2low]

NEVER has an IAM member in PIT loaded or offloaded any of the Express aircraft.

That's funny. They did until 1994 until Jetream Intl took over Express ramp/csa.

 

[xoxo]

700UW,
Are you slow? Something must be wrong with you. As much as you post and read on here and you still have not figured out that "MAA" is NOT express. It is the EMB Division of mainline...with mainline f/a's and pilots(othere than the JFJ that came over from the wholly owns) You keep saying that mainline loads the 170's and they are express. WAKE UP!!! :blink: They are not express..The 170's that Republic just bought...THOSE ARE THE EXPRESS. Soon all the 170's will be owned and operated by Republic Airlines which is an Usairways Express carrier out of Indy. Got it? (probably not) Oh well..I tried.

 

[700UW]

Yes they fly off of the mainline certificate.

In PHL MDA employees work the flights on the ramp.

In CLT mainline employees work the flights on the ramp.

Two of US largest cities, but yet in PHL MDA employees who are not mainline employees and have a different collective bargaining agreement work MDA flights, not mainline and in CLT mainline employees under a different collective bargaining agreement works MDA.

Maybe you are the one who is slow?

And if you read my posts, you would know it is not about MDA, it is about that US can have its own rampers work mainline flights, express flights, charter flights or another airline flights and it is not a contract violation.

Comprehension problem?

 

[GroundedBoricua]

Lets see CLT is a Class A city, yet MDA is worked by mainline fleet service, not express.

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Well I have something to say about this, since when does Mid-Atlantic fly to CLT???? :huh: :huh: Mid-Atlantic doesn't fly to CLT :boring: so what flights does CLT handle? :unsure: