PHL EXPANSION?

Although I question WN's business practice of PHL flights, I don't think this needs to be reduced to maniacal laughter somehow pertaining to deli meats on a roll. I like WN a lot and hate to see them fail. However, PHL is questionable insofar as long term profitability. Like B6, WN was expecting US and maybe even DL to die out. However, with US as strong as ever, thanks to the HP merger, US has left WN to the very conditions they wished to avoid back in the "golden days;" big congested airports with a strong airline claiming fortress hub status. This is one of the reasons why WN chose to ditch the likes of SFO and DIA and chose the likes of ISP over JFK, PVD/MHT over BOS, BWI over IAD/DCA, FLL/BWI over MIA, HOU over IAH (yes, drive times too, but let's look at the whole reason) and of course, LUV over DFW... etc etc etc...
 
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we at US only quote the deli sandwich issue because of what wn Herbi said about going to PHL. like you said they went into markets feeling and not thinking that US and DL would make it. they made a mistake. US and DL are in better position as well as NW. the playing field is totally changed. the hubs belong to the majors who hold them .. no dents. Wn has no where to go but international. and the folks who have been serving them for years welcome them. NO ONE IS AFRAID OF WN ANYMORE>>> As Bob Barker says good bye to Price IS RIGHT TODAY.. so does the industry to WN... your fuel headging has expired you now pay 70.00 per barrel.. you will now feel the what the industry big timers have been feeling. you only made money after 9/11 because you had the money to hedge oil... for the employees of WNn who have a inhouse union who have been given stock instead of pay raises they gave you stock.. as long as they made money.. . you may want to start thinking about hmmm... lets just in case.....
 
we at US only quote the deli sandwich issue because of what wn Herbi said about going to PHL. like you said they went into markets feeling and not thinking that US and DL would make it. they made a mistake. US and DL are in better position as well as NW. the playing field is totally changed. the hubs belong to the majors who hold them .. no dents. Wn has no where to go but international. and the folks who have been serving them for years welcome them. NO ONE IS AFRAID OF WN ANYMORE>>> As Bob Barker says good bye to Price IS RIGHT TODAY.. so does the industry to WN... your fuel headging has expired you now pay 70.00 per barrel.. you will now feel the what the industry big timers have been feeling. you only made money after 9/11 because you had the money to hedge oil... for the employees of WNn who have a inhouse union who have been given stock instead of pay raises they gave you stock.. as long as they made money.. . you may want to start thinking about hmmm... lets just in case.....

1. WN's hedging has not expired. Nor is it paying 70/bbl.

2. I'm glad that we have an inhouse poster child for mandatory drug testing here on usaviation.

3. The hubs belong to the majors that hold them--that's funny.
 
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i know the truth hurts. and you are the one who needs realality. WN hides their problems and in PHL YOU have problems.. but you keep them QUIET.... we at US are the top guns and provide the BEST service in the commuity for the tools that are given to us. WE have been here for over 60 years and we will continue to provide realible service and more important safe service. US has a commitment to PA and surrounding areas when everyone could have cared less. WN NK B6 and all the rest.. like BOB BARKER said COME ON DOWN.. but we will always be here. you can come and go but the city of PHILIDELPHIA LUVS US and that will never change.. .......US RULES>>>>>unike what WN says in their ridiculous annoucements We love you but we will leave you.. in PHL at US we say we LUV PHL and we will never leave YOU.
 
i know the truth hurts. and you are the one who needs realality. WN hides their problems and in PHL YOU have problems.. but you keep them QUIET.... we at US are the top guns and provide the BEST service in the commuity for the tools that are given to us. WE have been here for over 60 years and we will continue to provide realible service and more important safe service. US has a commitment to PA and surrounding areas when everyone could have cared less. WN NK B6 and all the rest.. like BOB BARKER said COME ON DOWN.. but we will always be here. you can come and go but the city of PHILIDELPHIA LUVS US and that will never change.. .......US RULES>>>>>unike what WN says in their ridiculous annoucements We love you but we will leave you.. in PHL at US we say we LUV PHL and we will never leave YOU.
Oh yeah??? Well, I think it's like PAT SAJAK says: "Solve or spin". Or like ALEX TRABEK says: "I'm sorry. That must be phrased in the form of a question".
 
i know the truth hurts. and you are the one who needs realality. WN hides their problems and in PHL YOU have problems.. but you keep them QUIET.... we at US are the top guns and provide the BEST service in the commuity for the tools that are given to us. WE have been here for over 60 years and we will continue to provide realible service and more important safe service. US has a commitment to PA and surrounding areas when everyone could have cared less. WN NK B6 and all the rest.. like BOB BARKER said COME ON DOWN.. but we will always be here. you can come and go but the city of PHILIDELPHIA LUVS US and that will never change.. .......US RULES>>>>>unike what WN says in their ridiculous annoucements We love you but we will leave you.. in PHL at US we say we LUV PHL and we will never leave YOU.

Continue? When are you going to start?
 
i know the truth hurts. and you are the one who needs realality. WN hides their problems and in PHL YOU have problems.. but you keep them QUIET.... we at US are the top guns and provide the BEST service in the commuity for the tools that are given to us. WE have been here for over 60 years and we will continue to provide realible service and more important safe service. US has a commitment to PA and surrounding areas when everyone could have cared less. WN NK B6 and all the rest.. like BOB BARKER said COME ON DOWN.. but we will always be here. you can come and go but the city of PHILIDELPHIA LUVS US and that will never change.. .......US RULES>>>>>unike what WN says in their ridiculous annoucements We love you but we will leave you.. in PHL at US we say we LUV PHL and we will never leave YOU.

Wow...are you willing to share some of what you've been smoking? In April, Southwest's on-time arrival percentage was 83.4%; US Airways' was 63.1%. For the first quarter of 2007, Southwest was at 77.3% while US was at 60.0%. At PHL in April, 77.4% of WN's flights arrived on time, while 56.1% of US's flights arrived on time at PHL in April.

Does US Airways' "commitment to PA and surrounding areas" include their commitment to Pittsburgh, where they have cut roughly 75% of flights from the former hub? How does the commitment to Philadelphia figure into cutting one-third of mainline departures from PHL as compared to seven years ago? Where do you think Southwest's 12% market share at PHL came from?

Did Southwest have a Christmas meltdown at PHL due to poor staffing by management and then try to blame it on employees? Do we hear Southwest customers saying that they book away from PHL?

PHL-PVD is not going away any time soon. Could it happen? Of course it could, but you'd probably see them reduce flights in the market slightly at first (which they haven't), just as they did with PHL-BDL. Lower fares simply didn't grow the total PHL-BDL market as much as they grew PHL-PVD and PHL-MHT.
 
i know the truth hurts. and you are the one who needs realality. WN hides their problems and in PHL YOU have problems.. but you keep them QUIET.... we at US are the top guns and provide the BEST service in the commuity for the tools that are given to us. WE have been here for over 60 years and we will continue to provide realible service and more important safe service. US has a commitment to PA and surrounding areas when everyone could have cared less. WN NK B6 and all the rest.. like BOB BARKER said COME ON DOWN.. but we will always be here. you can come and go but the city of PHILIDELPHIA LUVS US and that will never change.. .......US RULES>>>>>unike what WN says in their ridiculous annoucements We love you but we will leave you.. in PHL at US we say we LUV PHL and we will never leave YOU.

1. You say PHL loves US but when WN wasn't in the picture you charged 3 times the normal rate for flights. It wasn't until the #1 domestic carrier came in with lower prices did us/hp figure out thats what the customer wants? Start thinking for yourself because if you did US/HP would have continued to make money post 9/11

2. As stated in previous post US has been rated the WORST of all domestic carriers with regards to customer service. So PHL may love you but sure seems that the rest of the country not so much. SO quit worrying about WN and get your own issues resolved

3. US maybe doing ok financially now. My question would be how two poorly run airlines merged together are going to make it? America West was on the verge of bankruptcy pre 9/11. With all of US past mergers history says that they never worked out.

4. Fuel hedging. What are you jealous US couldn't do it on there own. Why do you fault wn for being able to think outside the box. Don't you think that WN is still looking to the future?

US rules, I DON'T THINK SO!!!
 
for the employees of WNn who have a inhouse union who have been given stock instead of pay raises they gave you stock.. as long as they made money.. . you may want to start thinking about hmmm... lets just in case.....

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