I am not advocating displacing any W/O pilots by any means
By taking a Jets4Jobs position at any WO, you are in fact advocating that very thing. What gives you the right to hold a Captain position at my company above those already on our seniority list?
but your argument that you should have total senority rights over the pilots whose routes you are now flying in an RJ does not hold up.
I'll tell ya what doesn't hold up sunshine, the fact that mainline was able cr@p all over our seniority rights by giving you people Captain positions on our property.
Just because mainline jets aren't making money from PIT to CRW and the company decides to actually catch up with the rest of the industry, now you think your entiled to ruin the monetary posibilities of pilots on another seniority list?
Let me ask you this. What about if all of the flying that the WO's do was turned into mainline flying and we were all gonna be furloughed, would you give us Captian positions at mainline. After all, you would be taking our flying. Don't bother answering, I already know what your gonna say. See the thing is you mainline folks never seemed to grasp the concept that the Mainline is a WO too! And the flying is just as much ours as it is yours. You may have been a WO pilot in the past, but it sure sounds like you've changed your colors.
And you can live in the fantasy world that states that your RJ's are not flying our old routes all you want but we all know (even you) that these RJ's are direct replacements for those 150 or so 737's, F100's and MD-80's now parked in the desert.
Replacement or not your group should have fought for One List a long time ago and you would not have found yourselves in this position. If the flying turns Express, then it turns Express, oh well. Like I said earlier its just as much ours as it is yours. You would not hear us complaining one bit if some of the flying we did turned into mainline flying, that would mean the opportunity for advancement and the flying would be kept in house, but your group droped the ball on that one too.
I mean come on guys....U's routes keep on shrinking but some how PSA now has 85 RJ's worth of NEW routes that were NEVER flown by mainline (You know the ones your mad at because we are taking YOUR seats!) The math does not add up.
Mainlines routes are shrinking because this mgt has no idea how to grow an airline. And where oh where are these 85 new routes. Do you just make this up as you go along? I've been flying the same routes for years. Long before mainline was furloughing. Once in blue moon we go to a new city and then its usually given back to PDT or ALG. The three WO's have been interchanging routes for years and sometimes a mainline jet is there and sometimes it's not. What fault of ours is that? Remmember mainline is a WO'd too! And what math are you trying to add up? PSA is getting 60 jets, all of which should have been here years ago instead of the contract carriers, but guess who we have to thank for that.
Now to top things off we have to give you 30 of those jets because for some unknown reason your more important than us! BS I for one would have had no proplem with some sort of preferential hiring or even that flow through thing that your group shot down years ago. Ohhh.... But not you, you people want to come here and get the whole nine yards. And so now I think the time to sue ALPA has never been better. By allowing jets4jobs to happen they have said that one group of pilots is better than the other and left themselves open to a world of trouble.
Or hey how about YOUR routes being taken by MESA......ahhhh yes, but of course that is different because now you are the ones getting boned!
Guess what, if its not done by the US Airways Group, we all get boned. Yes even mainline too. Most WO'd pilots don't care where it goes, so long as it stays within the Group.
It is a messy situation. But I am all for the Nationwide ALPA senority if you want to go that way. The other option is to totally scrap the senority system nationwide and go the normal business route, the best attitude and most experienced get to be Captain........I will go for that too if you want to go that way, but just on the experience catagory alone the W/O's will lose most of their seats to those mean old mainline guys.
Personaly, I would rather see One List within the US Airways Group, meaning Mainline, ALG, PDT and PSA under one seniority list doing all the US Airways and US Airways Express Flying. This would be the best thing for us all. Whether it be DOH or a Staple it does'nt matter, all that matters is that we work together instead of against eachother.
however the rest of the list is comprised mostly of 1 to 5 years of flying experience
This would be an extreamly incorrect statement.
MidAtlantic is a division of mainline and is reserved solely for furloughed mainline employees
You need to inform yourself a little better with the LOAs that deal with the staffing of MDA. Your statement is false.
