Ord-pvg
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eolesen
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- Jul 23, 2003
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Imagolfer said:
I'd like to think we'd get the award for this year, but we've been screwed before in route authority cases...
Still, odds are that CO and AA will be the two who get the awards for 2005 and 2006. DL and HA also have applications, but DL's service out of ATL doesn't seem to be anywhere near what AA and CO will offer.
So regardless of which award they get, CO will still need a country director.
I don't know if this means anything:
From the Chicago Sun-Times
---ILLINOIS SENATOR BACKS AMERICAN's CHINA BID---
U.S. Sen. Barack Obama has become the 27th member of the U.S. Senate
to support new service from Chicago to Shanghai on American
Airlines. The aviation world is awaiting word from U.S.
Transportation Secretary Norm Mineta to announce which U.S. carrier
will be the next to serve China under a bilateral aviation agreement.
Posted from Jetwire dated 2/2/05
Art Tang
MIA
From the Chicago Sun-Times
---ILLINOIS SENATOR BACKS AMERICAN's CHINA BID---
U.S. Sen. Barack Obama has become the 27th member of the U.S. Senate
to support new service from Chicago to Shanghai on American
Airlines. The aviation world is awaiting word from U.S.
Transportation Secretary Norm Mineta to announce which U.S. carrier
will be the next to serve China under a bilateral aviation agreement.
Posted from Jetwire dated 2/2/05
Art Tang
MIA
ITRADE
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Given the existence of the ORD-PVG service via UA, I would expect DOT to spread the goodies around and announce service from EWR.
I want AA to get it but I just have a feeling CO will get it because UA already flies ORD to China. Plus AA seems never to be able to get a new route to Asia when they become available. Unfortunately, it seems like AA will continue to be pretty much locked out of Asia.
Guys, AA will almost certainly get rights to China. The most likely outcome is that AA will get seven and CO will get seven (CO will NOT get all fourteen, that is for sure). The question is who will get the 2005 slots. Unlike CO, AA actually has the aircraft ready. CO has a shortage of long-haul aircraft, and while they would free one for Beijing in a heart beat, who knows. Also, Beijing already has non-stop service to New York City on Air China, so the "but UA already flies ORD-SHA" argument also applies to CO.
jimntx
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Flyboy4u said:
Ed, the fact that Continental is hiring is old news. CO announced this in December. However, it doesn't really have anything to do with the China route. They are hiring because they are losing people that have been on straight reserve since before 9/11.
Traditionally, CO f/as served reserve for no more than 2 years or so before they became line holders. Now, CO has not furloughed any f/as since 9/11, but they also haven't hired any. So, the people that were hired in 2000 are still on straight reserve and tired of it. Some have been quitting. Other attrition such as retirements or terminations have also been happening. CO is expanding domestic service at a time they are losing f/as. Because they have no furloughees to recall, they have to hire new.
I think Continental did have involuntary furloughs after 9/11. I spoke with an EWR based reserve in Mexico City and she told me she was furloughed involuntarily for about 4 to 5 months right after 9/11.
But like Jim said, since she came back she has been on reserve every month. She sounded like she had had enough of that.
But like Jim said, since she came back she has been on reserve every month. She sounded like she had had enough of that.
Kev3188
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jimntx said:
Hopefully, we can all say that at some point!
jimntx
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s80dude said:
I would doubt that she was telling you the exact truth about the furlough. CO did have some f/as on VOLUNTARY furlough after 9/11.
I have several friends who are CO f/as, and none of them remember anything about any INvoluntary furloughs after 9/11. But, in any case, as I said, they have no one on furlough right now; so, they have to hire from the outside.
