Onboard payment via credit card.

Pretty rude and disrespectful comment directed towards your fellow employees, no?


Man, do you have YOUR head in the sand!! It is no secret that this kind of thing goes on industry wide. It's amazing the jack ass uppers didn't figure this out and the way to cure a long time ago. A simple solution that probably had to go thru a thousand committees ( I think I spelled that incorrectly ), but don't feel bad, we at US still take cash only.
 
Man, do you have YOUR head in the sand!! It is no secret that this kind of thing goes on industry wide. It's amazing the jack ass uppers didn't figure this out and the way to cure a long time ago. A simple solution that probably had to go thru a thousand committees ( I think I spelled that incorrectly ), but don't feel bad, we at US still take cash only.



Speak for yourself. There may be some that "dip" but after 35 years in the air, I believe that most of the f/as I have worked with are honest to a fault. We have always said that all money transactions should be handled before the customer boards. Less paperwork, no money or papers to turn in, and less perception that all employees are thieves. And the best reason: no one has to wait on short layovers while HIDEP is completed.
 
Who does it before the end of the sequence or during our 4.5 hour productivity breaks? Only fools. No one is afraid of their little automated messages about not receiving a deposit. Which by the way requires no action be taken.
 
Pretty rude and disrespectful comment directed towards your fellow employees, no?

No, a rather frank and honest one directed at the people who pocket the cash. Anytime you have cash transactions, you're going to have a certain percentage of the employees who don't report each and every sale. I've fired agents for it, I've seen skycaps fired for it (excess baggage), and I know flight attendants have been fired for it.

I'm also told there's a boat in San Diego harbor which is named HIDEP. Perhaps it's just an urban myth, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least.
 
Who does it before the end of the sequence or during our 4.5 hour productivity breaks? Only fools. No one is afraid of their little automated messages about not receiving a deposit. Which by the way requires no action be taken.



lol...I guess we were held to a different standard in stl...so much for trying to get us to do it the AA way. As far as urban legends, we always heard that someone had a pool in the shape of a headset. Such is life.
 
Reality is that any job involving the handling of cash has a certain amount of employee theft. I saw an article the other day about the U.S. Mint having this problem!

I hope the OSRs solve at least part of the problem for us. However, in defense of the f/as...

When I first started with AA in 2000, I heard before I even finished training that Conventional Wisdom (called CW at Newsweek) was that the LGA domestic f/as were notorious for stealing liquor money and/or liquor supplies. This was based on audits of the carts before they left catering and what came back to catering.

About a year after I started, the Port Authority busted a ring of catering employees who had stolen over $7 million worth of liquor from several airlines over the course of several years. IIRC one was stocking the neighborhood bar he owned on the side from the airline carts. So much for CW. :huh:
 
About a year after I started, the Port Authority busted a ring of catering employees who had stolen over $7 million worth of liquor from several airlines over the course of several years. IIRC one was stocking the neighborhood bar he owned on the side from the airline carts. So much for CW. :huh:
Did he still charge $6 a mini? :p :p :p
 
When I first started with AA in 2000, I heard before I even finished training that Conventional Wisdom (called CW at Newsweek) was that the LGA domestic f/as were notorious for stealing liquor money and/or liquor supplies. This was based on audits of the carts before they left catering and what came back to catering.

About a year after I started, the Port Authority busted a ring of catering employees who had stolen over $7 million worth of liquor from several airlines over the course of several years. IIRC one was stocking the neighborhood bar he owned on the side from the airline carts. So much for CW. :huh:

I remember that story - here's a link to it:

http://www.timesnewsweekly.com/OldSite/041...wFiles/JFK.html
 
Speak for yourself. There may be some that "dip" but after 35 years in the air, I believe that most of the f/as I have worked with are honest to a fault. We have always said that all money transactions should be handled before the customer boards. Less paperwork, no money or papers to turn in, and less perception that all employees are thieves. And the best reason: no one has to wait on short layovers while HIDEP is completed.


I AM speaking for myself and as many of your co-workers have written...THEM too. Honest to a fault? How sweet. :mellow:
 
I AM speaking for myself and as many of your co-workers have written...THEM too. Honest to a fault? How sweet. :mellow:



"Most" is the operative word. Sweet, maybe. Respectful of my profession, you bet. The myth of the flight attendant lives on.... Your perception is right up there with, we like people and we LOVE to travel, and don't forget "its all about the glamour". lol

Reality: We go to work, we do our jobs, (we are professionals), and then we go home to our family and friends.
 
Speak for yourself. There may be some that "dip" but after 35 years in the air, I believe that most of the f/as I have worked with are honest to a fault. We have always said that all money transactions should be handled before the customer boards. Less paperwork, no money or papers to turn in, and less perception that all employees are thieves. And the best reason: no one has to wait on short layovers while HIDEP is completed.

Amen.
 
Who does it before the end of the sequence or during our 4.5 hour productivity breaks? Only fools. No one is afraid of their little automated messages about not receiving a deposit. Which by the way requires no action be taken.

If I am not flying the next day and I arrive in terminal 8 I deposit my money.

If I am flying into terminal 8 and have a flight the next morning I take the money home and HIDEP it there. Then I bring it back to work and deposit it in the safe by the bus stop at term 8 or in ops in T9.

If I am flying into T9 the money always comes home with me and they can get it when I come back to work.

If they want the money right away they are going to have to put a safe where I can find it in T9. Right now it is ridiculous. It's like "where's waldo?". "where's the safe?". Some jerk decided that it would be in our inconvenient T9 ops where you need a key to get in one door and another key to get in another door to find the safe. It's like the beginning of Get Smart with all the codes, hallways, walls, and doors. They'd have to pay me an hour debrief if they wanted me to drop it off in there after walking the 80 miles from the arrival gate to the front of the terminal.

HIDEP at home has made my life very convenient. As long as the money is deposited I really don't think they care. I just hold onto the receipt with the log numbers.
 
If they want the money right away they are going to have to put a safe where I can find it in T9.


Can I have an AMEN from the choir! And JFK ain't the only station that has this problem. I remember that the HIDIR instructions for one station (ATL, I think) included a step to leave a trail of magic beans so you could find your way back. :lol:

I think ICT is the only station I ever flew into that has a really SENSIBLE deposit location--in the gate podium. You could stand there at the computer, do your HIDEP, then slip the envelope into a slot right below.
 
Can I have an AMEN from the choir! And JFK ain't the only station that has this problem. I remember that the HIDIR instructions for one station (ATL, I think) included a step to leave a trail of magic beans so you could find your way back. :lol:

I think ICT is the only station I ever flew into that has a really SENSIBLE deposit location--in the gate podium. You could stand there at the computer, do your HIDEP, then slip the envelope into a slot right below.


Why not make it easy on yourself and deposit all of your money when you return to STL? That way you don't hold the van up to the hotel and you have money to make change!

The HI6 message is just an automated response, it's not from your supervisor.
 

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