NYT article on the Shutte

[john john]

Of course it would mean basically giving up at LGA.
Jim

That is the point.Thanks for making it again

 

[john john]

I haven't seen any indication that management is paying more, or less attention to pilot negotiations since the slot deal was announced. Could you provide some examples?
Jim

Again USSAP made the statement to get managements attention did it work?

 

[john john]

Any evidence? And again, where is "their" statement - I didn't know places could make statements?
Jim

They can’t USSAP can did

 

[Pi brat]

Don’t hold your breath

Oh, I won't. This outfit could shut down before that happens, but it's in the books. Is this your way of saying you were wrong about the E190s not being CAT II?

 

[BoeingBoy]

That is the point.Thanks for making it again

I've lost track of your point - it's changed too many times. Is it your claim that the Shuttle is in play, that the slots might be turned over to Express, or that LGA is going to be abandoned completely? Or is it that it's all just a negotiating ploy by the company?

Jim

 

[BoeingBoy]

Again USSAP made the statement to get managements attention did it work?

I guess you mean USAPA, but I'm not sure. Did it work? Apparently the company notified Judge Wake that USAPA was not negotiating in good faith and had not removed their DOH proposal - both being violations of the injunction. I guess if that's what USAPA hoped to achieve, you could say that it worked...

Jim

 

[john john]

Is it your claim that the Shuttle is in play, that the slots might be turned over to Express, or that LGA is going to be abandoned completely? Or is it that it's all just a negotiating ploy by the company?

Jim

Yep right on all accounts except the threat is LGA will be downsides to the likes of bygone hub/focus cites.Is it that hard to see the agenda?

 

[john john]

Oh, I won't. This outfit could shut down before that happens, but it's in the books. Is this your way of saying you were wrong about the E190s not being CAT II?

Yes I was wrong if the E190 that are still here are CAT II
So my question did they come on property CAT II what has to be done for this to happen
And what needs to be done for CAT III to happen
US needed CAT II and III A/C the last couple of days

 

[Pi brat]

Yes I was wrong if the E190 that are still here are CAT II
So my question did they come on property CAT II what has to be done for this to happen
And what needs to be done for CAT III to happen
US needed CAT II and III A/C the last couple of days

When I was on it it was in the process of gaining CAT status, everyone was trained to CAT IIIa, but they aircraft had to have a rudder actuator modification. CAT II started in early Nov and it will take several months of evaluation to reach full CAT IIIa status.

 

[john john]

What is going on with the move to Marine Air Terminal at La Guardia?

 

[BoeingBoy]

Haven't you heard? Someone claims LGA is in play, being turned over to Express, shut down, or who knows what. Likewise for the Shuttle...

Jim

 

[john john]

Haven't you heard? Someone claims LGA is in play, being turned over to Express, shut down, or who knows what. Likewise for the Shuttle...

Jim

Just another piece of the puzzle

 

[flybynite]

Haven't you heard? Someone claims LGA is in play, being turned over to Express, shut down, or who knows what. Likewise for the Shuttle...

Jim

Good one, Jim.

 

[john john]

Good one, Jim.

Jim all kidding aside since your background with ALPA is bids and scheduling is it feasible to not have a crew base in LGA and BOS with hourly mainline schedule service between BOS-LGA and DCA-LGA
Flybynite you better hope it does not come to negotiated attrition
Unless you are not affective by a major pull down of mainline flying in/out of LGA BOS

 

[BoeingBoy]

Sure it's feasible. Heck, it's feasible for an airline of DL or AA's size to have only 1 crew base. That's the extreme on one end of the scale. At the other end it's feasible to have crews based at every station an airplane flies into.

It's really about balancing priorities - the cost of having small crew bases vs the cost of not having them when ops go south. The hubs tend to offer the best source of flights to about anywhere in the system - crews can be deadheaded to where they're needed during irrops and few hotel rooms are needed since crews can start/end trips easily at the hub with all it's flights. For US, that means PHX, CLT, PHL plus DCA as it's going to be a mini-hub.

It is amusing to read all the uproar over closing the BOS/LGA Airbus bases - how the schedule will be in ruins, etc. Yet the E190 is going to be flying a good chunk of the Shuttle and there's not a single E190 pilot based in any Shuttle city - but no uproar over Shuttle reliability.

Jim