Non Rev Travel Planner

[jimntx]

Ft. Hood moved to Afghanistan? ;-)

Had to give a knock to an English major...

Touche!  I meant to impart that my nephew who was at Ft. Hood is now in Afghanistan (his 3rd tour to that pile of rocks and sand).  I told him to tell his superior officers that his mother would not give him a permission slip for any field trips outside the United States, but he refused to do it.

 

[N924PS]

RES is the Sabre Reservations System that you just joined last Saturday.  For many years it was the gold standard in the U.S. for airline reservations systems and for all IT installations involving distributed processing.  Not so much anymore.  And, I doubt very seriously that they spent the time and money to modify CATCREW to access it.  If CATCREW is a U.S Airway app for crews for non-rev travel, it is more than likely going away at some point.  NRTP works for all employees, not just a subset.

Prior to the America West merger, crew members had access to RES, but not with the same functionality customer service agents had. It was never part of CATCREW.

Sabre RES and DECS was available to USAirways pilots that chose to use it. CATCREW is USAirways pilot and flight attendant scheduling and record keeping platform.

Since East and West pilots and flight attendants never merged operationally, each side still operates under separate systems. East on CATCREW, West on MAESTRO, although I think the West flight attendants may be making an interim transition to CATCREW.

The IT folks at AA are supposed to be working on a single FOS Flight Operating System, but Scott Kirby states it won't be ready till late 2016. Hopefully the AA pilots will have, and all parties will accept the arbitrated Integrated Seniority List by that milestone.

 

[nycbusdriver]

Hopefully the AA pilots will have, and all parties will accept the arbitrated Integrated Seniority List by that milestone.

 
This time, the SLI arbitration is a federally-mandated process and there will be no choice but to accept it.

 

[Roadking5560]

There's going to be a few lost souls on the pilot forum once the SLI is finalized.  What on earth are they going to talk about?

 

[jimntx]

The IT folks at AA are supposed to be working on a single FOS Flight Operating System, but Scott Kirby states it won't be ready till late 2016. Hopefully the AA pilots will have, and all parties will accept the arbitrated Integrated Seniority List by that milestone.

I'm hoping that some of the functionality of CATCREW will be transferred over to the new system.  When I told you that you can look at loads and standby lists in RES, I did not tell you that you have to know the native RES commands that the gate agents use.  There is no GUI overlay.  It is not "user friendly".  The main advantage to knowing and using these codes is it helps prevent situations such as mentioned above where agents are manipulating the standby list to get friends and family onboard out of standby order.  Do not ever let an agent tell you that the standby list in RES is not the "real standby list."  It is the ONLY valid standby list.  If you know the RES codes you can print a copy and spot manipulation in a second when names are called out of order.  A hard copy shown to a gate supervisor makes a lot of difference.  A formal complaint filed with the company even more.  I don't know about LUS, but at LAA manipulating the standby list as described above can result in termination.
 
(Make friends with a gate agent at your commuting stations.  Chocolate is always a good starter.  Tell them you are going to Starbucks and offer to bring them something.  Then, treat them to it if they ask for something.  Particularly on difficult days, this can earn you points for a long time.  It has been my experience that simply offering to bring them something earns you points.  We forget that agents are sometimes stuck at the podium for long stretches.  If they are not working the flight you are getting on, they can still print you a copy of the standby list.) 

 

[N924PS]

I'm hoping that some of the functionality of CATCREW will be transferred over to the new system.  When I told you that you can look at loads and standby lists in RES, I did not tell you that you have to know the native RES commands that the gate agents use.  There is no GUI overlay.  It is not "user friendly".  The main advantage to knowing and using these codes is it helps prevent situations such as mentioned above where agents are manipulating the standby list to get friends and family onboard out of standby order.  Do not ever let an agent tell you that the standby list in RES is not the "real standby list."  It is the ONLY valid standby list.  If you know the RES codes you can print a copy and spot manipulation in a second when names are called out of order.  A hard copy shown to a gate supervisor makes a lot of difference.  A formal complaint filed with the company even more.  I don't know about LUS, but at LAA manipulating the standby list as described above can result in termination.
 
(Make friends with a gate agent at your commuting stations.  Chocolate is always a good starter.  Tell them you are going to Starbucks and offer to bring them something.  Then, treat them to it if they ask for something.  Particularly on difficult days, this can earn you points for a long time.  It has been my experience that simply offering to bring them something earns you points.  We forget that agents are sometimes stuck at the podium for long stretches.  If they are not working the flight you are getting on, they can still print you a copy of the standby list.)

Is the Priority List displayed on Mobile Travel a real time repeat of what the agent sees on their RES display?

 

[nycbusdriver]

Is the Priority List displayed on Mobile Travel a real time repeat of what the agent sees on their RES display?

 
Is the Priority List displayed on the monitor above the agents' head a real-time repeat of what the agents see on their RES display?
 
I was told I was #7 on the agent's computer screen, but the overhead monitor showed me #3.  When I actually got a seat assignment, I moved from #3 on the overhead screen to #10!  
 
Really???   A bullet-proof system (as told to we LUS by you LAA people when we were told we would be going to this system.)
 
Please allow me to call: "B*** S***" on this one.

 

[jimntx]

I've noticed that some agents just give you the numeric value of your place on the list.  Bear in mind you might be #1 among the non-rev standbys, but you are #52 on the physical list because all oversolds (OS), revenue upgrade requests (UPGRD, UPGRD1-3, (what I call) pushy revenue, (RL) are all on the standby list above you,  Yes, the list on the overhead screen at the gate is the same as the RES list.  I have never seen the situation you described of being one number on the list and another when you got a boarding pass.  Can't imagine how that could happen--unless the agent was in fact manipulating the list.  That's something I've seen happen only once, and the agent got fired for their actions.
 
P.S. Pushy revenue are the ones who are ticketed on a later flight, but trying to get on your flight.  Fortunately, since the company started charging $75 for that convenience--except, I think, for Executive Platinum--it's not as prevalent as it used to be.

 

[cubs_in_2012]

Jimntx, I agree with you. Personally I have never seen a list unethically manipulated by an agent.  One situation that might appear so though - which is no longer applicable - would be flying on US and then connecting to AA, or vise-versa.  In those cases the agents were empowered to bump you to a thru passenger (D2T), sometimes only minutes before the second flight departed.  Looks strange to people already on the list. 
 
The revenue stand-bys though are a killer, no way to predict them.  It is all voodoo. I've found that in many cases the last flight of the day is easier to get on now because so many revenue stand-bys are jumping to earlier flights.

 

[Pi brat]

 
 
So you want the jumpseat to go seniority too?

No, but DOH would be okay. 🙂
 
Nobody answered my question, I guess I will have to go look it up before I non-rev-it's against the rules to use an app or computer to check in for you, right?

 

[dfw gen]

Dude you folks are relentless. Let the horse die in peace already.

 

[Pi brat]

Dude you folks are relentless. Let the horse die in peace already.

It's a simple question, you could have just as easily answered, if you know. Or is that the great unspoken truth at AA? People aren't supposed to use apps to check in for them but do?

 

[cubs_in_2012]

Pi brat (or anyone), do you have an app that let's you *automatically* check in?  Does that actully exist??? 

 

[Pi brat]

Pi brat (or anyone), do you have an app that let's you *automatically* check in?  Does that actully exist???

I believe my bidding software has the capability, never tried it.

 

[IORFA]

I'm sure someone has made an app for it. I have never heard of one, nor do I use one. It isn't necessary.