marco90821
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Do the AFA bylaws not state DOH? So not just a contract, but regulated by your union.
Non Rev Boarding
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CaptBud330
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- Aug 20, 2002
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I personally am still outraged that retirees go below active employees. My 37 years of service deserves boarding priority on a DOH basis. What justification can be made for a relative new hire to have a higher boarding priority then the people that built this airline.
Come on Capt'n Bud,...are you serious?? The answer is you are RETIRED...you ain't GOTTA be anywhere. We have to get to work etc......get to a vacation spot Cause.....we gotta go back to work when it's over. Be glad you are outta here. You think you are outraged.....just imagine the scene at the gate when you, your wife...your buddy pass travelers, your son and daughter etc...showed up and bumped 10 people trying to get to work. I flew with a FA who married a senior pilot, thus gaining 20 years on her non rev date. We had a scheduled DH and we tried to leave earlier.....guess who got on first and left her 2 co-workers at the gate who were senior to her except for her husband's date!!!!
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songbirdstew
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I would have agreed with you when we all lived in base and only non-reved to go on vacation. Now 90% of this airline commutes to get to work and sorry to say but my getting to work is much more important than your 37 years of service and your trying to go on vacation. Last year alone, I had to buy over a dozen tickets to get to and from work. Pull out your wallet Capt. Bud and buy a ticket---they're cheap enough.
CaptBud330 I agree with you in part. You should board based on your years served rather than your DOH. If someone retires after you with more years served but was hired after you, does it make sense for you to board first? Retirees should have their DOH adjusted annually and their years served frozen.
One may have retired from US Airways, but is now employed elsewhere and may have to get back to work. I don't buy into the premise that active employees "have to get back to work" therefore should have a higher boarding priority than non-active employees. The so called retired employees listed accordingly when they were "junior" active employees and got back and forth without complaining about it. You have a US1 vacation priority at your disposal, so use it. US2 is not in use, maybe communting employees in uniform could use that to and from their domicile?
...still
CaptBud330
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Commuters choose where they want to live. When you choose to commute, you are aware of the problems associated with getting to work. I know many people that actually commuted to their base a day early to insure they were in position. Sorry, I still don't agree that active employees should get priority over a retiree.
I commuted to work 20 years and on many occasion I couldn't get on a plane. That's just the way it is when you commute. If you don't want to play the game, move to a base.
I commuted to work 20 years and on many occasion I couldn't get on a plane. That's just the way it is when you commute. If you don't want to play the game, move to a base.
And what did you do when you couldn't get on a plane??
CaptBud330
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Most of us retired guys took our lumps longer then most of the posters on this thread have been alive. For me, it was 37 years, 20 of which were commuting. The last thing I want is to not get on a plane because the last seat was taken by a new hire with the tags still on their uniform. I'm sorry if you think just because your going to work entitles you to a seat. The retired people paid their dues and one of the perks of dedicated service was non-rev boarding by seniority. If you make it, you make it. End of story.
You'll probably look differently at it after you have a few years under your belt.
You'll probably look differently at it after you have a few years under your belt.
Iheartflying
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Yes your years of service exceed how long I've been on the earth but you get the non-rev privilege...shouldn't that be enough? There is no rationalizing why you should get priority over people that are actually working. Sorry but can't go with you on that one.
