New TWU president talks tough against DOJ lawsuit, American Airlines layoffs, industry outsourcing
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YUP. Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah. SOS! This guy was the VP at international and was involved in ALL the international decisions in the past, what makes all the members think anything different will happen or change? He can be vocal on all the crap he promises, but he will never deliver results as promised. Good luck boys, the new regime is now trying to lie their way to keep you guys. BTW guys; why did Jim Little so willingly step aside? Why didn't he run again? Something fishy here guys. They have plans. What those plans are will appear later on and will become very apparent when it's too late. Surely hope you guys are smarter than this, but I have sat here and watched you guys constantly fall for all the BS from the TWU International puppets for well over 3 decades. When will it stop? It is up to you all now, it is time to fire the TWU from representing the mechanic and related at AA!!! The layoffs are coming in 2014 and Tulsa will be the largest city hammered starting in Jan 2014.
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From what I hear from the Santos Convention updates local 591 wanted 514 to suffer more job loses. They even filed a lawsuit against the TWU for protecting those jobs. Most of us know the 591 E Brd is pro-AMFA and follow their ideology of sacrificing overhaul for higher line AMT pay. Why don't you tell the truth swamt, AMFA would complete AA management's goal of outsourcing all of TULE.
Getting AMFA in at AA would seal TULE's fate once and for all. The TWU is the only union who has stood up for overhaul and you ridicule their success. Why not point out the facts, NWA, UAL, and SWA have practically no overhaul when compared to AA. Even if AA does cut AMTs at TULE there will still be more overhaul AMTs working making way more than those doing the work on SWA aircraft at Aeroman.
Getting AMFA in at AA would seal TULE's fate once and for all. The TWU is the only union who has stood up for overhaul and you ridicule their success. Why not point out the facts, NWA, UAL, and SWA have practically no overhaul when compared to AA. Even if AA does cut AMTs at TULE there will still be more overhaul AMTs working making way more than those doing the work on SWA aircraft at Aeroman.
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A minority of us in Tulsa voted NO swamt and have done so for many years. I don't see a change in the majority until Tulsa is a ghost town. Too little too late. No pun intended. Makes me sick watching these blind sheeple running around with their TWU "enough is enough" shirts. IMHO it gives dumb a new meaning. I'd bet my paycheck these poor people will be proudly wearing their TWU shirts in the unemployment lines. Their wives and kids must be proud. The founding members of the union are rolling in their graves.
A minority of us in Tulsa voted NO swamt and have done so for many years. I don't see a change in the majority until Tulsa is a ghost town. Too little too late. No pun intended. Makes me sick watching these blind sheeple running around with their TWU "enough is enough" shirts. IMHO it gives dumb a new meaning. I'd bet my paycheck these poor people will be proudly wearing their TWU shirts in the unemployment lines. Their wives and kids must be proud. The founding members of the union are rolling in their graves.
The TWU sealed Tulsa's fate with all the threats and back door deals. Tell it how it is and stop bashing AMFA as an excuse for the low life union we have known as the TWU.
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TULE fate? The point is they still have options unlike UA and DL. There are still over 5,000 TWU members working overhaul unlike SWA which has what? 500? Woo hoo! SWA has about the same size fleet yet at AA there is thousands more working at way better pay than those thousands of highly paid ($5/hour) AMTs at Aeroman.
The highest paid airline employees are at SWA but not because of AMFA. All other unions on the property make top industry wages too and the most total number of employees is represented by the TWU, not AMFA. That's not AMFA bashing, that's the truth. AMFA did nothing but extend the IBT contract over and over again.
So do you support 591's lawsuit that TULE should have given up more jobs so line AMTs can get more money?
Saved jobs at what cost? Lower wages, less and or lost benefits?
The TWU has dragged down the AMT profession contract after contract.
TWU is toast. They got so greedy with their deals that it cost them dearly. They bit off too much. Now it is time for reality to set in. How sad.
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So you advocate voting YES on eliminating job security and increasing outsourcing, and then have the guts to post on here that AMFA would allow the same. WOW!
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NIce try but totally untrue. We didn't vote for or against job security and increased outsourcing. AMR filed to eliminate those things to get what all the other airlines already had. The court documents submitted by AMR to Judge Lane referenced higher levels of outsourcing at every other carrier and that is all they wanted, industry standard outsourcing in place at UA(IBT), DL(non-union), AS(AMFA), and SWA(AMFA). Read the facts and you will know, we didn't vote for more and the TWU did not agree to higher outsourcing. The TWU negotiated to have fewer jobs outsourced then AMR wanted.
Unlike AMFA who rolled over at UA and agreed to what the IAM already gave up. Unlike AMFA at AS who blamed the IBT when all of the OAK overhaul base was shutdown and all work outsourced while not even being in BK.
Remember Dave, you are in TUL and it is your job that is at risk not mine.
Why are you fighting so hard to give me on the line a pay raise? Do you care that much about me?
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Read the "ask". AMR was asking to get a contract like those in place at SWA, AS, and UA. Why? Because they wanted to get those industry leading outsourcing contracts the IBT and AMFA already had in place.
It is AMFA and the IBT dragging down the industry and the TWU is the last one standing up for the AMT profession as a whole, not just the line AMT profession.
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WE paid for the lower level of outsourcing with concessions. We paid to keep AMR out of BK with more concessions, then we took more concessions in BK. TWU is not succeeding, just taking a different path to failure than some of the others. But still FAILING!
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Really? With B,C,D, scales, SRP's, JR AMT's, loss of Vacation, Loss of Holidays, Loss of Scope language, Loss of Pensions......and more. Describe this "standing" up you always metion. Because all I see is CAPITULATION!
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Let me guess "He is going to fight like hell" followed by a "They can do that brother" speech.
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Do the other top paid workers at SWA earn around 30% more than workers in the same class and craft like their mechanics do? Tell us more about the lawsuit. Does it actually say that TULE should have given up more jobs so line AMTs could get more money or that just another one of your embellishments?
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I would like more info too. I found out through the Santos/JFK convention updates that 591 has filed legal action against the TWU for not representing the line.
Remember, AMFA has only extended the IBT contract that raised their pay. AMFA has had several contract extensions and the last one expanded the number of lines that could go to Aeroman. So AMFA cannot take on the most consistently profitable airline and get one contract that exceeds a 3% annual raise and allows greater outsourcing.
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