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With MSY closed for what will be some time now, reporting 2 months... Will the extra aircraft that would of gone into MSY make scheduling the rest of the system easy, or does it create headaches? Also, is WN planning on adding extra flyers into nearby airports?
 
AA191 said:
With MSY closed for what will be some time now, reporting 2 months... Will the extra aircraft that would of gone into MSY make scheduling the rest of the system easy, or does it create headaches?  Also, is WN planning on adding extra flyers into nearby airports?
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I'd think that Pittsburgh would be ripe for more flights as would Philadelphia, if gates are available there.
 
AA191 said:
With MSY closed for what will be some time now, reporting 2 months... Will the extra aircraft that would of gone into MSY make scheduling the rest of the system easy, or does it create headaches? Also, is WN planning on adding extra flyers into nearby airports?
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The temporary nature of MSY's shutdown may permit accelerating some future schedule enhancements that were planned for the acceptance of new delivery aircraft over the next two months. However, the airline business has a long lead time. It's hard to accelerate anything too much because of the phenomenal logistics that go into the process.

There really aren't any "nearby" airports for SWA to go to ... JAN is the closest (nearly 4 hrs by car), BHM is next at just under 6 hours. Maybe it's time to open up Pensacola?
 
corl737 said:
There really aren't any "nearby" airports for SWA to go to ... JAN is the closest (nearly 4 hrs by car), BHM is next at just under 6 hours. Maybe it's time to open up Pensacola?
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How about temporarily relocating MSY service to Baton Rouge? Being NW of New Orleans, it escaped relatively unscathed.
 
My own thoughts are, who wants to go there. There is no food, water, electricity, gas, and you are under Marshall Law and an evacuation order. There is no tourism and there is no business being conducted right. Send aid and help, but there is nothing to see or do right now. I think that it would be prudent to wait a month and see how the scen looks then. Just my thoughts......
 
mga707 said:
How about temporarily relocating MSY service to Baton Rouge? Being NW of New Orleans, it escaped relatively unscathed.
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The logistics to move grond service equipment, ticketing, etc. to a different airport makes the proposition impractical, especially since it's only temporary. Undoubtedly, the biggest obstacle is getting the TSA's ability to handle the increased security needs in place.
 
corl737 said:
The logistics to move grond service equipment, ticketing, etc. to a different airport makes the proposition impractical, especially since it's only temporary. Undoubtedly, the biggest obstacle is getting the TSA's ability to handle the increased security needs in place.
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Hmmm.... AA's managing to do it. Just added some S80's on DFW-BTR this weekend, which was previously an all-RJ market. TSA didn't blink an eye.
 
Former ModerAAtor said:
Hmmm.... AA's managing to do it. Just added some S80's on DFW-BTR this weekend, which was previously an all-RJ market. TSA didn't blink an eye.
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Just guessing but, I would think that an airline already in the market upgrading equipment is one thing...an airline that previously did not offer service, just sorta "showing up" and setting up shop quite another. Given the fact that WN is MSY's largest carrier...any sort of significant "reliever ops" at BTR would have to be pretty sizeable to make the effort even marginally practical.
 
coolflyingfool said:
There is no food, water, electricity, gas, and you are under Marshall Law and an evacuation order.


Eminem is actually Marshall Mathers, but who is this Law person with the same first name? Or is it his title?
B)

Seriously, though, there is currently no part of the disaster area that is officially under MARTIAL law. A local government official is suburban Jefferson Parish (what LA calls their counties)--which includes Metairie and Kenner--made a declaration of "Martial Law" for his parish on Tuesday, but is has no legal standing. I have read that an official declaration of Martial Law must be declared by the President and approved by Congress in order to be enacted.

Don't feel bad--that brainless bimbo Nancy Grace (God, how I hate that woman!) was prattling on and on about "Martial Law being declared in New Orleans" on her waste-of-time CNN show the other night before someone finally corrected the cow and she shut up about it!
 
JS (always think this means just $&!^)

We never give up. That's why they call us the borg. That's why SWA has already been back to MSY to survey and come up with a plan.

The story will probably end up: SWA goes back into MSY when feasible/profitable/reasonable and again is the largest carrier at MSY. It may take a few years with the devastation--but we'll be back.
 
Former ModerAAtor said:
Hmmm.... AA's managing to do it. Just added some S80's on DFW-BTR this weekend, which was previously an all-RJ market. TSA didn't blink an eye.
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you guys are awesome for doing such a great feat but i am sure you have heard of the southwest effect...
 
DALLAS, Sept. 2 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Southwest Airlines (NYSE: LUV)
today sent its second humanitarian flight into New Orleans as part of the
government's ongoing relief efforts for the hurricane-ravaged Gulf Coast. A
Southwest Boeing 737-700 departed from the carrier's Dallas Headquarters at
approximately 11:30 a.m. with Federal law enforcement officials onboard, bound
for New Orleans. Also onboard were food, water, and other supplies needed to
support relief efforts.
Once in New Orleans, Southwest personnel will assist in transporting
evacuees to facilities at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio. Southwest
has dedicated an aircraft to this effort and will make additional trips into
and out of New Orleans as coordinated with the various Federal and state
agencies directing the relief effort.
Southwest Airlines is grateful for the opportunity to provide assistance
to the residents of the Gulf Coast but emphasizes that access to the area is
extremely limited. Southwest is participating in the humanitarian effort
coordinated by several Federal agencies including the Department of
Transportation, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, and the Department of
Homeland Security.
Southwest encourages people who want to help, to donate money to their
local American Red Cross (ARC), rather than seeking to bring goods to a local
airport. Since flights into New Orleans and the surrounding area are
extremely limited, and because the relief efforts will endure into the coming
months, donating money to the ARC is the most effective way to provide
support.
 
I was told by a SWA agent today that SWA will basically closing down MSY and reopening much later in the future with only 6 flights. At first I thought she was wrong, but when you look at the city, no one lives there, no one works there, and no one can visit there. No need for flights there. I believe it. I hope MSY can come back strong, but down the road it looks. Just my thoughts..........
 
coolflyingfool said:
I was told by a SWA agent today that SWA will basically closing down MSY and reopening much later in the future with only 6 flights. At first I thought she was wrong, but when you look at the city, no one lives there, no one works there, and no one can visit there. No need for flights there. I believe it. I hope MSY can come back strong, but down the road it looks. Just my thoughts..........
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Take a look at SWA's route map on Southwest.com. Pointing your mouse at MSY shows that no service is offered to that city. New Orleans has been removed from the current and immediate-future on SWA flight schedule. SWA planners are working overtime to create a completely new timetable reflecting the change.

On the "glass half full" side, because of the strike at Boeing, the removal of MSY will free up aircraft that can be redeployed to initiatiate already-announced service enhancements on other routes.
 

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